The Trump Presidency

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In a civilized world, I do accept that the rightwing authoritarian propaganda feed coming from Breitbart and Fox and the US media, the think tanks that guide and set their parameters and vocabulary, contains "evaluations" of people and events that differ from my own. And I know why that is.
But do you really want to be reposting their garbage as "evaluations" of your own? To be a parrot of scum is your goal?
I was unable to make sense of this. Possibly because I'm not a native speaker. But imho this simply makes no sense.

Except maybe as a defamation that I'm simply reposting some of the sites you hate. In case of the Clinton videos, we had a discussion here, where I have changed my opinion about which information given in the video is useful and what makes no sense because it was out of context. So, this was a clear case of an evaluation. Your opinion remained different, something like once it was used by evil sources it cannot be used at all or so, I was unable to make sense of it. For me, a video is a video, and, once no-one claims it was not Clinton, it tells something about Clinton. So, there was a clear and obvious disagreement about our evaluation of that video.

About your use of "scum": don't forget that for me, there is not much difference between you and Breitbart, above are different variants of American propagandists.

The military strength was nowhere near comparable, as the examples you posted illustrate perfectly. That was concealed from the American people under a flood of exaggerations and deceptions, to justify the profitable military buildup of the Cold War - which makes sense, but: Why do you believe them?
During Cold War time I was sitting in the communist block without any access to any American propaganda, neither from the left, nor from the right, so that your question why I believe them is completely off.
Meanwhile, your isolationist has just launched his first military venture in the project to - if he acts as he said he would - kill all the Islamic terrorists and their families everywhere they live on the planet.
And again you, despite my clarifications that it is far from sure what Trump will really do, defame, naming Trump "my isolationist". You cannot without defamation?
 
Except maybe as a defamation that I'm simply reposting some of the sites you hate.
You aren't just reposting "sites". You are repeating "arguments" and canards and false claims of fact - entire propaganda derived descriptions of situations, framed in the propagandist's language. and supported by links to propaganda sources. American rightwing authoritarian propaganda - fascist propaganda.
This crap is completely familiar to Americans. You are completely oblivious to its nature, origins, and relationship with reality.
For me, a video is a video, and, once no-one claims it was not Clinton, it tells something about Clinton.
Yes, we know. That kind of naivety is how you so often get played by American marketing professionals.
In case of the Clinton videos, we had a discussion here, where I have changed my opinion about which information given in the video is useful and what makes no sense because it was out of context. So, this was a clear case of an evaluation.
You only noticed one of them was "out of context" in one particular and trivial way, and even that only because three or four other people not only pointed to the obvious edit - right in front of you all along - but found the full video. And you still haven't acknowledged the context for the full video, or the other videos, or any other "information" about Clinton you think you possess. You have instead denied - flat out denied, in specific language - the necessity of knowing that context, when evaluating. And since you don't know it, and refuse to learn it, your "evaluations" are easily manipulated and you get played by American rightwing authoritarian marketing pros.
During Cold War time I was sitting in the communist block without any access to any American propaganda, neither from the left, nor from the right, so that your question why I believe them is completely off.
So you believe them now because they agree with the propaganda you had from the communist bloc media then? That would answer my question.
And again you, despite my clarifications that it is far from sure what Trump will really do, defame, naming Trump "my isolationist"
You were the guy posting here that Trump was more likely to be isolationist than Clinton because of 1) bullshit Trump said, that you did not realize the nature of because you were ignorant of American politics and refused all proffered information, and 2) sillyass psychopathology you attributed to Clinton, because you didn't realize you were being suckered by Republican campaign slanders and - again - refused all proffered information.

You not only fell for Trump the Isolationist, you doubled down - refusing to reconsider even in the light of information provided to you. And all that was perfectly consistent with your inveterate blind spot regarding rightwing tyranny and how it establishes itself.

He's your isolationist. You pratfall that hard, you own what's stuck to your face.
 
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So...uhm ... Mr Spitter, do you and your President Turnip know what professionalism means?

Prime Minister Trumble .... Indeed!

Sorry, the guys and gals down the pub are having a fit over this one..... "Homer Simpson for President" they yell...

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At least Homer has morals at his core...

"If you Publicans get upset by my comment remember it is only pub banter and we can dog (grab) the cat just as easy as you guys can...". :) :)
 
hee hee..

"hey Jimbo, did you know Trump was an apprentice?"
"yeah.. I saw it on the box over by the bar.. He a traddie then?"
"Nah!! they must o sacked him when Termi the Swarzneger said "You're fired!"

....
 
The story on your President being abusive to our PM appears to be fake. IMO

In today's paper all round Australia there are front page headlines highly critical of the way trump handled himself in talking to our PM.
On all TV news there is further outrage being expressed including hugely critical commentary from one political party. ( Greens)

All appeared to reference their source as the Washington Post
All appeared to refer to an apparently leaked excerpt of the telephone conversation between our PM and the POTUS
All mentioned that the call to our PM was only one of a number of calls including a call to Putin of Russia.

Below is a image file of one such front page/newspaper.


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Questions with out answers:
  • How is it that private telephone calls are being leaked with out the White House launching an urgent investigation?
  • Of all calls made that day the ones made to Putin or Merkel would have been much more important, why were they not leaked (if any existed to begin with) to the Washington Post?
  • There appears to have been no attempt to verify the credibility of the leak by Australian media interests. Why not?

I smell a big stinking rat...

The sheer scale of this scandal has involved so many people attempting to defend the ANZUS treaty all across the world and is incredibly damaging not just to the Trump administration, the USA government, White House security, Australian Government but to confidence generally.

If a leak did occur why is not being investigated?
  • Why is the leak selective and not including Russian Putin and Germany's Merkel?
  • Who is Bezos and what is his relationship to anti - Liberal/National Party (Australia)- organizations and media interests?

Washington post was recently purchased for $250Million usd by Amazon ( owned by Bezos)

IMO it's FAKE NEWS until verified.
There was no leak.

General info: Bezos:
"In the days following Trump’s unexpected win, however, Bezos took the biggest hit of any American billionaire as Amazon stock fell for nearly a week straight. Going into the election, Bezos was the third richest person in the world behind Gates and Zara founder Amancio Ortega. After Trump’s win, Buffett’s fortune increased more than any other billionaire’s, and he quickly surpassed Bezos on FORBES’ Real-Time Ranking.

As of Thursday’s market close, Amazon stock was up nearly 17% since its post-election low on November 14, 2016, putting Bezos’ fortune within $1 billion of Buffett’s $73.1 billion fortune. With the market’s reaction to Amazon’s mixed fourth quarter earnings, however, that gap has widened to $3.7 billion."
src: http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevin...er-mixed-amazon-earnings-report/#6755656f6d95
 
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We shall see just how damaging this BS is going to be... no doubt about it...

"Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refugee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange.

Then (According to who?), 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it."

src: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ml?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.eddba9578ef4

who are these senior US officials?
 
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I would advise the Australian Government, if I had the opportunity, to sue the Washington post for the damage they have caused with their FAKE leaks.
 
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That kind of naivety is how you so often get played by American marketing professionals.
You obviously cannot without defamation.
You only noticed one of them was "out of context" in one particular and trivial way, and even that only because three or four other people not only pointed to the obvious edit - right in front of you all along - but found the full video.
And even here you lie. It was claimed that it was out of context, without any link. After that I have found the the context myself.
And you still haven't acknowledged the context for the full video, or the other videos, or any other "information" about Clinton you think you possess. You have instead denied - flat out denied, in specific language - the necessity of knowing that context, when evaluating. And since you don't know it, and refuse to learn it, your "evaluations" are easily manipulated and you get played by American rightwing authoritarian marketing pros.
That you don't accept the idea that one can use propaganda sources to extract useful information from them (knowing the techniques how to do this) is your problem. I have learned this already during my childhood. That you did not like the information I have extracted is, again, your problem. Your only argument remains the defamation above. Which is the cheapest excuse imaginable - everything one does not like is evil propaganda from the bad guys.
So you believe them now because they agree with the propaganda you had from the communist bloc media then? That would answer my question.
No, I simply have no opinion about something I have not seen at all. All what I know about it is that you claim it is evil right-wing propaganda, which is essentially zero information, except for the trivial information that you disagree.
You were the guy posting here that Trump was more likely to be isolationist than Clinton because of ...
So what? You know that there is a difference between "is more likely to be" and "is"?
So, please stop lying.
 
Every day we wake up to a fresh nightmare. Eliminate financial regulations? We are going to crash and crash hard. Maybe cash out your 401K and buy gold and silver.
 
The amount of media hours that went into reporting fake leaks as true, is utterly amazing...even now after it has been revealed they are still doing it.....oh but now they emphasize that the information was first reported by the Washington post as if doing so absolves them of responsibility for their own shit.
"US President Donald Trump praises Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull for "telling the truth" about their phone conversation on the Australia-US refugee deal, describing the exchange as "very civil" and saying "fake news" media lied about details of the call."
src: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-03/trump-thanks-malcolm-turnbull-for-telling-the-truth/8240608
 
Notice on news taller fence going up around the White House

Waiting for the Fight Cage to be built around the Senate
 
The Australian refugee resettlement deal is border line crazy in the first place, Bezos ( Washington Post) know this and sort to capitalize on the obvious with out any regard to the collateral consequences.

"when crazy meets crazy"
 
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