Schmelzer
Valued Senior Member
I agree, so I think there is no way the states which have nuclear power will give it to the UN. Once the US will not give it, nobody else will give it. Anyway the UN has been reduced to its Cold War state during the last years.For the USA to relinquish control of it's weapons and become to it's perception vulnerable to external control thus suffering what it has dissed out over the post cold war years to others is utterly foreign to the American thinker. The 2nd amendment right to bear arms goes a lot further than the civilian population, I dare say and extends to a nations right to bear arms to defend itself from shadows and reflections of it's own insecurities, fears and paranoia
Of course, BRICS/Eurasia will unite against the US, Kissinger's idea/hope for an alliance with Russia against China has no chance. But they will start to construct an own base, which can replace the World Bank and so on, in fact they have already started to do this. To take over the UN would be a very long time job, actually they will not even try.It is worth noting that Trump may force the worlds hand in his quest to make the USA great again, the world may indeed decide together, united, to remove the power that Trump intends to abuse destroying it or placing it in the hands of a new reformed UN.
Of course, I'm stupid -> wastebasket.You don't know what "the establishment" is, in this case.
This is already low level propaganda BS, sorry.Putin clearly preferred Trump - the obvious reason would be that Trump is more vulnerable. He doesn't need "contracts" from Trump - he needs chaos, in the US government, so that he can re-expand Russia's imperial influence - what you call "sovereignty", expanded into Ukraine and Syria and so forth. You may be familiar with the principle, when two fascists meet? It's familiar enough in the West to turn up in popular song: "Two little fascists will fight until // one little fascist does the other one's will". Putin's seems pretty sure he's going to come out on top, with Trump.
US torture was, in the mild water boarding version, officially allowed and therefore undeniable. And a lot of other things, like Guantanamo, were undeniable too. Of course, they have harmed the US in informational warfare, no doubt. I would say Nobel peace price laureate Obama signing killing lists for drone wars harmed the US even more, at least comparable. But they have not lead to any obvious political consequences. All the highly moral defenders of Western humanitarian values in government positions have not cared at all.W didn't torture Germans, and kept things deniable - and even so, it apparently cost the US allies, support, and cooperation. Trump, if not prevented, would have no such restraint. That would cost the US even more.
BTW, W did torture Germans. Found some cases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Kurnaz a Turk living in Germany, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri wiht Lebanese and German citizenship. Ok, not Germans from a racial point of view, but I hope you are not a racist. And, anyway, for the German government it does not matter at all if some Germans are tortured or not, at least if the US is doing it.