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The Trump Presidency
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It is unacceptable. But it is The Donald.
Somewhere in the post someone wanted a duck for POTUS
I did offer to swap Mal for Trump but no takers
Along about now, we can note in passing that Trump's campaign promise to do something about drug prices in the US has become the following policy recommendations (as much as the man can ever be said to do or say anything that actually deserves the dignity of the term "policy recommendation")
He is going to stop Medicare from negotiating drug prices, because that's "price-fixing" (he doesn't seem to know that Medicare is already forbidden to do that).
He is going to cut taxes and reduce regulations on drug companies and their investors, management, etc.
Competition and the free market is going to bring prices down.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...h-drugmakers-as-industry-fears-price-controls
Recall: Trump is a Republican. Everything he has done so far, and the content of what he has said (subtract style), is mainstream Republican policy and ideology and past behavior.
It will soon become very difficult to keep two things in mind simultaneously: 1) Trump is a standard, mainstream, centrist Republican politician and President in every way except public vulgarity. 2) He actually did what we see him doing now.
Of course he's a fuckup. So was Reagan. So was W. So are they all, all the heroes of post-Nixon Republican politics. (Yes, W was a hero - and he will be again, given time.).
If in twenty years anybody has to actually slog through acres of namecalling and pejoratives and expressions of incredulity to make the plain statement that Trump's tenure in office was both 1) Republican governance and 2) bizarre and clownish disaster, the way we have to now with Reagan and increasingly with W, we'll have lost a significant political battle.
He is going to stop Medicare from negotiating drug prices, because that's "price-fixing" (he doesn't seem to know that Medicare is already forbidden to do that).
He is going to cut taxes and reduce regulations on drug companies and their investors, management, etc.
Competition and the free market is going to bring prices down.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...h-drugmakers-as-industry-fears-price-controls
Recall: Trump is a Republican. Everything he has done so far, and the content of what he has said (subtract style), is mainstream Republican policy and ideology and past behavior.
It will soon become very difficult to keep two things in mind simultaneously: 1) Trump is a standard, mainstream, centrist Republican politician and President in every way except public vulgarity. 2) He actually did what we see him doing now.
Of course he's a fuckup. So was Reagan. So was W. So are they all, all the heroes of post-Nixon Republican politics. (Yes, W was a hero - and he will be again, given time.).
If in twenty years anybody has to actually slog through acres of namecalling and pejoratives and expressions of incredulity to make the plain statement that Trump's tenure in office was both 1) Republican governance and 2) bizarre and clownish disaster, the way we have to now with Reagan and increasingly with W, we'll have lost a significant political battle.
while appreciate your comment I do not believe that this issue of Trump is merely one of politics. His behavior is so unprecedented in so many ways that to label him of either party is merely a political convenience and leverage rather than a reality.
Trump is not a Republican however the republicans may be considered as Trumps, is one way of looking at it... ( I do realize I may be totally off target but I thought I'd add it to the thought bubble and see what happens)
If Americans allow the Republican Party to offload its bad stuff unto this guy, and then disown him, they will lose an important political war they have already lost major battles in - with Reagan and W, especially.
Trump is a straight ahead, ideology and policy consistent, voting base supported, electoral map consistent, corporate backing acquired, Republican. Look upon him, and see the Republican Party - the actual thing, the way it is, right now, in the US. The Congress, with its Gohmerts and Cottons. The State governors, with their Walkers and Snyders. The voting base, with its fundies and bigots. The corporate support, with its Exxons and Kochs. The media, with its CNNs and Foxes and Breitbarts and Limbaughs. The celebrities, with their Bradys and Sarandons and Adamses and Coulters.
And like all of them, that entire Party, he's a complete fuckup as far as actual governance. Fascists are fuckups. Republicans are fuckups. At governing.
This lesson is very, very important, in the US right now.
Aye... but it is a lesson that the Republican Voting Base is either unwilling, or too stupid, to learn...
I noticed that as Putin is ramping up the war in Ukraine, the US is easing restrictions. Seems like most of the US doesn't care, of course most of the US doesn't care that a foreign country interfered with our elections so WTF, right?
Is this like the Twilight Zone or something?
Is this like the Twilight Zone or something?
I fully appreciate what you are saying... and true I think you are correct ( from what little I know of USA politics) but I also strongly believe that the issue facing the USA and the world transcends any partisanship issue by many orders. You are dealing with a direct threat upon the very foundation of your political system and this distraction to political ownership of that destruction is allowing the foundations to disappear in the hubris of Trumps insanity.
If and when this is all over do you honestly think the world at large is going to sit back and allow it all to happen again?
Trump has upset way too many people breached way to many taken for granted agreements around the Globe.
Even my atheist asylum seeker house tenant (rents a room) from Iran is running crazy trying to get his PRV converted to citizenship. Replicated millions of time and you can see the issue building.
the only way they are going to wake up is when the markets crash and the food stamps they have been relying on disappear.
It is amazing how people change when they have to wait in line for soup on a daily basis...
The markets will eventually crash... just a matter of time and events....
Iran's recent plans to stop using the US dollar in protest is only the beginning...
My guess that the Euro may take priority...further isolating the USA
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That threat is currently embodied in the Republican Party, with its corporate and media backing. Not Trump.
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I wouldn't say that most people don't care. Trump is very unpopular and 40% favor impeaching him in a new poll. For a guy just a week or so on the job, that's very negative.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/317627-poll-4-in-10-back-impeaching-trump
is Bannon a true Repubican? I thought he was a confederate....wait there is no Confederate party...or is there.... ( re: twilight zone )
They are a minority, those unreachable.
Of course he is. Why wouldn't he be? They have a media wing. That's very important to that kind of operation - innovations in propaganda are their major strength.
Re "Confederate": The conversion of the Party of Lincoln to the Party of Davis was completed in 1968. You will not see a Republican nominee for high office named Abraham Tecumseh Sherman III.
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well then strongly tag Bannon as a republican and I think you will find progress in you quest. I think most republicans would be very disturbed...In other words trump can be tolerated but Bannon is another kettle of fish....
If and when Bannon has to take the oath of office ( if he hasn't already done so)... watch his face when he swears allegiance to the constitution....should be interesting
Research indicates that Bannon maybe a neo-confederate among many things. seeks to destroy the republican party from the inside out....rejects the USA flag and therefore the constitution. but I might be way wrong...
Like half the Republican Congress, at least. And what they have done to the Republican Party is not described as "destroyed", but rather rehabilitated. The "liberals" have been purged.
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