Oh, do I wish we had a duck as president. It would no doubt be smarter and I've never known a duck to be an asshole.
The Trump Presidency
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Aye, and ducks tend to be somewhat attention-shy, and so wouldn't force their mug on International TV every few hours to restate bald faced lies and tell journalists to "shut up".
Aye. And I'm kind of fond of ducks too. They have a purpose in our ecosystem. Chump doesn't.
probably . . . . . . but not for sure . . . . . . must apply the scientific method paradigm (i.e., this IS a Science Forum) . . . . . . therefore . . . . simply a 'hypothesis' based on opinion - IMHO!!!
Personality disorders are not mental illness. You guys should really stop making this argument, that you can remove someone from office because they are narcissistic, a label that could be applied by any amateur to just about any president we've ever had.
Have you not watched The Donald? Have you not listened to or read the things he has said and done? The Donald begins every speech with a long period of self aggrandizement. Have you not seen his gilded over the top apartment? I gave you a reference and there are many more. And what does the previous POTUS have to do with Trump's narcissism? Nothing; it has nothing to do with Trump's narcissism. But it's an all too typical Republican response, blame the Democrats. Neither Obama or I are responsible for Trump's clear and observed narcissism. Trump's narcissism does very much affect Trump's decisions. It makes him very vulnerable to manipulation.
"The irony is that narcissists, who consider themselves worldly, discerning, knowledgeable, shrewd, erudite, and astute - are actually more gullible than the average person. This is because they are fake. Their self is false, their life a confabulation, their reality test gone. They live in a fantasy land all their own in which they are the center of the universe, admired, feared, held in awe, and respected for their omnipotence and omniscience."
Abusing the Gullible Narcissist
By: Dr. Sam Vaknin
http://samvak.tripod.com/journal68.html
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That is already a scientific method paradigm:
To break it down super simplified:
Question: Is it a duck?
Background Knowledge + Research
We know how a duck walks, quacks, swims, looks, and generally behaves.
From observation we:
-know it walks like a duck.
-know it sounds like a duck.
-know it swims like a duck.
-know it looks like a duck.
-know how it behaves.
Hypothesis - it is a duck
Test with an experiment.
Put it in situations and see if it acts like a duck.
Apply stimulus to see if it responds like a duck.
Procedure working - it responded like a duck and acted like a duck.
Analysis and conclusion - it is a duck.
In this case, it is well established how someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder acts in various situations. While we haven't personally put Trump through said situations, he has been put into them. Thus, from outside observation, we can say that there is a high degree of probability he has NPD.
. . . . simply opinion . . . . . IMHO!!
That is already a scientific method paradigm:
To break it down super simplified:
Question: Is it a duck?
Background Knowledge + Research
We know how a duck walks, quacks, swims, looks, and generally behaves.
From observation we:
-know it walks like a duck.
-know it sounds like a duck.
-know it swims like a duck.
-know it looks like a duck.
-know how it behaves.
Hypothesis - it is a duck
Test with an experiment.
Put it in situations and see if it acts like a duck.
Apply stimulus to see if it responds like a duck.
Procedure working - it responded like a duck and acted like a duck.
Analysis and conclusion - it is a duck.
In this case, it is well established how someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder acts in various situations. While we haven't personally put Trump through said situations, he has been put into them. Thus, from outside observation, we can say that there is a high degree of probability he has NPD.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! . . . . . simple opinion, IMHO!!
It is increasingly obvious that you have no intention of contributing to this discussion... begone troll.
Except that simply isn't true. Personality disorders are a mental illness, see Mayo Clinic definition below:
Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors. Many people have mental health concerns from time to time.Oct 13, 2015
Mental illness - Mayo Clinic
www.mayoclinic.org/diseases.../mental-illness/basics/definition/con-200338..
Where have I made the point Trump should be removed from office because of his narcissism? Yes, everyone has some aspects of narcissism in their personality, but that doesn't mean they are narcissists or suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. Most people aren't narcissist. Trump isn't most people. People can and should be removed from office when they become a threat to the health and well-being of the nation and Trump is well on his way to getting there. That's one reason why we have the 25th Amendment which sets out a process to remove the president when he becomes unable to execute the duties of his office.
The bad thing is we really don't have a good way to deal with narcissists. There is no good treatment for narcissistic personality disorder. There is no drug to cure it or ameliorate it.
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Up to now, Trump is yet unpredictable. An unpredictable leader of the US is, of course, dangerous for the whole world. And this is recognized by Russia too. The article I have quoted above has the title "Worldwide chaos in the Trump epoch" (my translation) and explicitly mentions even the possibility of a hot war with China. I think I have already mentioned that some influential bloggers like yurasumy have favored Clinton because of this - she would have continued the same anti-Russian policy which has already failed, thus, not really a danger to Russia, but who knows what happens with Trump.
After the first week pro-Russians observe that Trump is really doing what he has promised to do. Given that this reduces the uncertainty, which is the most dangerous thing, that's fine with the Russians.
What has been discussed a lot is Kissinger's influence on Trump. Kissinger's policy would be to do the same again what he has done before himself, splitting Soviet Union and China, now in another configuration: To make peace with Russia to unify against China. Judging from the comments about this idea, it is rejected. What they recommend is to accept whatever Trump offers for free, but to give nothing in exchange. In particular, there is clear agreement that Russia should not allow whatever US policy to split the Eurasian cooperation, in particular cooperation with China and Iran.
Of course, the Russian blogosphere is wide, and what Putin thinks is a different question.
Well you see that's the problem. You have a lot of opinions, but you have little to no facts upon which to base those opinions.
Just stick with his policies, they are bad enough.
Isn't Russia part of the whole world?
Where is the link? Where is the reference?
No, what he is doing is placating his base with mostly meaningless actions and a lot of show. That's what Trump has done thus far. Contrary to your assertion Trump hasn't reduced uncertainty, he has increased it. That's why the equity markets are selling off today.
And you know this how?
A few famous narcissists:
Adolph Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Napoleon Bonaparte
Vladimir Putin
Donald Trump
What a group of distinguished individuals.
Below is a link to an interesting article on Vlad's narcissism:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/vladimir-putin-narcissist/360544/
Although Trump grew up in a wealthy home and Putin grew up in poverty, they have much in common.
Adolph Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Napoleon Bonaparte
Vladimir Putin
Donald Trump
What a group of distinguished individuals.
Below is a link to an interesting article on Vlad's narcissism:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/vladimir-putin-narcissist/360544/
Although Trump grew up in a wealthy home and Putin grew up in poverty, they have much in common.
How many people have to consider Trump to be "Stone cold crazy" before you start to think that they may actually be right?
agrees! He has actually done very little. Not one extra cent has been raised to support his America great again campaign. Spending human resources, and wasting his/our time on Islamic extremist hiding under his/our bed with out any thought towards his published agenda making America Great again.
"Easy to spend Donald but can you do as you promised and make some money!!!! Show me the Money!!!!!" ~ Fredrick
Schmelzer
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Why Ruslan Ostashko thinks so seems quite obvious - they behave as they if they are unaware, or at least it looks like this.
Nice polemics, but not more. I would recommend you not to believe the propaganda of the own side too much. If one presents the own enemies as stupid, this is especially dangerous.
Maybe some very stupid globalists among the people have voted for Trump, I would not exclude this. I would doubt, given that Trumps opinion about Putin has played such a big role, that the people have not got the message that Trump wants to make peace with Russia, Clinton not.
Anyway, the subdivision globalists vs. pro-Americans is a subdivision of the elite, which knows what matters.
It is. The point being?
Lol, it is even part of your quote. http://ruslanostashko.livejournal.com/83948.html But it is in Russian, you cannot read it anyway.
I was asked about what the Russians think. I regularly read some Russian bloggers, which I consider as reliable, and which have a lot of supporters. Sometimes I also take a look at comments there. So I have some impression about what the Russians think.
If you think uncertainty has increased, who cares? This was not the question.
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