It wont be long before Trump puts the squeeze on Putin....
The Trump Presidency
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Schmelzer
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What can he do, even if he wants? Russia is aware about this possibility, and well prepared for this.
"Mr Trump has compared his policy to that of former president Barack Obama's in 2011, a claim which Mr Obama has rejected.
Mr Obama is heartened by the political activism he sees across the country and "fundamentally disagrees with the notion of discriminating against individuals because of their faith or religion", spokesman Kevin Lewis said.
"Citizens exercising their Constitutional right to assemble, organise and have their voices heard by their elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake," Mr Lewis said."
Mr Obama is heartened by the political activism he sees across the country and "fundamentally disagrees with the notion of discriminating against individuals because of their faith or religion", spokesman Kevin Lewis said.
"Citizens exercising their Constitutional right to assemble, organise and have their voices heard by their elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake," Mr Lewis said."
src: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-...ration-ban-to-blame-for-airport-chaos/8225196
If the "secret dossier" had no credibility then why would the Russians arrest someone associated and charge with treason and discover another Russian associated dead under mysterious circumstances?
nay that secret dossier is in good hands IMO. Trump and Putin have nothing to worry about.....(sarc)
nay that secret dossier is in good hands IMO. Trump and Putin have nothing to worry about.....(sarc)
It's not an effective criticism. They tried in on Bush (43) too, and it accomplished nothing.
Seattle
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If we eliminate narcissistic personalities where will we get our politicians from? I find an objective argument to be the best and there are plenty of those regarding Trump. No need to go all Quantum Quack on us.
LOL...If we eliminate narcissistic personalities where will we get our politicians from? I find an objective argument to be the best and there are plenty of those regarding Trump. No need to go all Quantum Quack on us.
Yes our politicians are, to varying degrees, narcissistic. But Trump is truly over the top in that department, and that concerns me. He's living in his own alternate world with his alternative facts. and that's troubling.
Yes, let's not beat around the bush. He's a fascist.
This is an interesting one:
That's perfect! Notice that, unlike a typical Trump supporter, she uses good grammar and the words are spelled correctly.
Seattle
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LOL...
Yes our politicians are, to varying degrees, narcissistic. But Trump is truly over the top in that department, and that concerns me. He's living in his own alternate world with his alternative facts. and that's troubling.
He is what you guy when you elect Billionaires. It's true that there are some thoughtful Billionaires but I suspect he is more like the majority. In any event he is just used to having his way which he could do in his old environment.
When politicians and political institutions (and the press) had at least a little more backbone he would learn the limits of Presidential powers rather quickly. He still may. You can only do so much with executive orders.
If would be much more fun if his party wasn't in the majority pretty much all over the country at this point.
The funny thing is Trump has managed to fracture is party in his first week in office. That's "yuge". The carnage Trump has caused in one week is extraordinary. A rational person would withdraw the executive order. Trump won't. His narcissism will not allow it, and that's the problem, and it's a problem which could lead to a WW III. Trump cannot back down. Putin cannot and will not back down either. Their personalities will not allow it. It's a deadly combination.
This squabble over his executive order is just a symptom of a far darker and more dangerous problem with Trump, i.e. his narcissism.
Do remember though that even though they may be Republican they are Human Beings, with families and kids, careers and the need to take time off and go on holidays.
They still eat home cooked meals and love fast food etc etc ...
That said , they are not surreal monsters that have emerged from the deep. They are also patriots and concerned citizens, trying to do what's right for the nation and also them selves.
Their pride in the USA has taken a big hit with Trumps craziness as their ability to hold their heads high around the world is greatly diminished. They will act eventually...to try and recover what ever they can of their dignity.
I know this may sound like a "Trumpism" but I think Obama has it covered.... and has had it covered for a long time....
Remember the word unprecedented means unprecedented. At no time in the history of the world have we, the global community, been faced with such a dilemma. So unprecedented solutions are necessary.
Not to anyone who knows what they're talking about. Which is proof he doesn't know what he's talking about.
But of course I didn't, any of that. The childishness of the Trump crowd is not a propaganda meme, but direct personal observation - I'm surrounded by them, remember? Their juvenile, fantasy motivated, shallow and unserious, tantrum dominated political behavior, is their single most obvious characteristic, and has been for my entire adult life.
And once again you substitute "stupid" for quite different criticisms and observations, in which stupidity is not involved - you do that routinely. Why?
I would advise you to not buy into the "they must be stupid" propaganda. Like the guy said: "I would recommend you not to believe the propaganda of the own side too much".
Consider the possibility that an alert and well informed American may know more about Trump and his supporters than somebody who thinks Trump's detractors are unfamiliar with Trump's supporters in the US. Just as an outside possibility. And take it as a warning - The Trump administration and its supporting Republican Congress are fascist. They have control of a large and very capable military, are beset with lots of domestic problems especially financial, and have what looks to a fascist like an opportunity to get their hands on a lot money and power, an opportunity they have won, right in front of them. What does history tell you they will try to do?
That's not what happened with Reagan or W. They doubled down, instead.
The alternative was to admit serious and humiliating error, betrayal of their country through a gullibility created by not only willful ignorance but character flaw, and
worst of all,
that a whole lot of people they had been despising and treating with contempt in public had been right all along. That they themselves were the bad, weak, bullying jerks that get what's coming to them when the good guy has had enough, in the movies they like.
That isn't going to happen.
Trump has already filed for re-election, btw - the fundraising letters have gone out.
Trump wont last 30 days IMO..
He is going to test his power over other nations (as his NPD demands) with the use of extreme military intervention and as soon as he issues the orders he and his crazy administration will be stood down and quietly replaced.
by the Unprecedented use of the INTENT of the USA Constitution.
Which, correct me if I am mistaken, is to protect the people from a rogue Government.
He is going to test his power over other nations (as his NPD demands) with the use of extreme military intervention and as soon as he issues the orders he and his crazy administration will be stood down and quietly replaced.
by the Unprecedented use of the INTENT of the USA Constitution.
Which, correct me if I am mistaken, is to protect the people from a rogue Government.
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