The Syrian "Revolution": A Farce from Beginning to End

[youreyes]

Were we dealing with the same players like Hezbollah, Iran and the Ruskies?

The use of a term "Ruskies" undermines racism towards people of Russia, just pointing out.

Hmmm, looks like Hezbollah and Iran have been busy in Libya

.http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/1007

Ah yes we can definitely trust a site with ".us" and "islamofascism" brand in its top right corner. DEBKAfile Ltd. is Israeli radical POV propaganda media, they are often the only source of the information.

 

[dumbest man on earth]

So no "war"... for now. I baffles me why the "war"/strikes on libya happened with such political ease but to do the same in syria is proving to be impossible, what is the cause of this?

Meh...but at least the "dust up" kept all the unimportant things like the Economy and NSA spying and Eric Snowden and BerghaziGate and HillaryGate and Fukushima and...etc, out of the Headlines!

To Whom it May Concern...the sentence typed ^^above^^ is chock full of heavy sarcasm.

 

[quinnsong]

The use of a term "Ruskies" undermines racism towards people of Russia, just pointing out.

For me Ruskies is an endearment. I have had a great deal of respect for the Ruskies in the past, but I am not a fan of their current leader.

Ah yes we can definitely trust a site with ".us" and "islamofascism" brand in its top right corner. DEBKAfile Ltd. is Israeli radical POV propaganda media, they are often the only source of the information.

Can you offer up what you deem as respectable sites?

 

[Captain Kremmen]

I would think 2 out of 3 of those would motivate us to strike even more so, and the Russians can't stop us or would not be willing to end to the world by going to war against us on this.

They may be reluctant to defend Syria, but Iran is Russia's Cuba.
It would be a mistake for America to expect them to blink when it comes to Iran.

As regards Putin, he has dragged Russia back from the brink of chaos.
His Mafioso mentality has helped him to do that.

 

[ElectricFetus]

They may be reluctant to defend Syria, but Iran is Russia's Cuba.
It would be a mistake for America to expect them to blink when it comes to Iran.

We would not be attacking Iran, so I don't see what the deal is.

As regards Putin, he has dragged Russia back from the brink of chaos.
His Mafioso mentality has helped him to do that.

And that has to do with the price of cheese how? Again: What made striking against Libya so easy and yet makes striking against syria so hard?

 

[CptBork]

Ah yes we can definitely trust a site with ".us" and "islamofascism" brand in its top right corner. DEBKAfile Ltd. is Israeli radical POV propaganda media, they are often the only source of the information.

Why then does it constantly criticize Israeli leaders and push the Palestinian peace process? On the first account government propaganda websites don't usually criticize their own leaders, and on the second account it conflicts with the radical Israeli right-wing viewpoint. It gives enough info and commentary for me to at least take it with a grain of salt, and it discusses details you almost never find elsewhere, whether based on factual info or false intel. Even if half the leaks are coming from the Mossad, I still want to know what they're claiming to see and what they predict for the future.

As to the sites you prefer for your information- when do they ever criticize Syrian, Iranian or Russian policy (as being too crazy rather than not crazy enough)? What significant developments have they ever predicted, how do you verify their claims?

 

[quinnsong]

This analysis of Islam, Terrorism and the US-Russian Rivalry is well worth the read guys and gals.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/5060

 

[iceaura]

So no "war"... for now. I baffles me why the "war"/strikes on libya happened with such political ease but to do the same in syria is proving to be impossible, what is the cause of this?

It's related to the fact that Libya has oil and location.

It's related to the fact that the word "farce" connected with Syria suddenly and simultaneously appeared in thousands of venues all through the US media, in the writings of people not formerly known for their fusty lit-crit vocabulary.

It's related to the fact that when a US President of the correct Party (for impunity) took it upon himself to employ the US Air Force in an attempt at in home assassination of a foreign head of state using missiles, and ended up killing instead some family and employees and houseguests including the despot's young niece, that established a precedent for the treatment of Libya and a category (alleged supporter of Islamic terrorism) that if well prepared in advance could deflect even Partisan repercussions. (The years of Foxing necessary for the making of a monstrous Assad have been spent making monsters elsewhere).

It's related to the fact that when David Fucking Brooks takes his regular pundit seat at the mic on the the flagship of allegedly "liberal" media, NPR radio, and declares in his ever-so-reasonable "adult" voice that 1) his favored political power group's latest manifestation of its Partisan agenda and scorched earth crippling of all of the current administration's policy initiatives foreign and otherwise is not a manifestation of a scorched earth Partisan agenda and crippling all of the current administration's policy initiatives foreign and otherwise, and offers as evidence

2) a claimed record of consistent support for military strikes at the President's behest regardless of Partisan affiliation since 1945, only interrupted now because of the new and unusual weakness/incompetence/unpopularity/whatever of the current President,

3) nobody on air laughs in his face, the subjects of Bosnia, Clinton, etc, are not introduced, and

4) DFB is invited back on to take his regular seat in this most "liberal" of venues and paid handsomely for his punditry as long as he deigns to show up.

 

[Captain Kremmen]

We would not be attacking Iran, so I don't see what the deal is.



And that has to do with the price of cheese how? Again: What made striking against Libya so easy and yet makes striking against syria so hard?

Try looking at an Atlas.

 

[wegs]

Why should we strike Syria and risk killing innocent civilians?

Here's what should happen!

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/10/assad-committed-a-war-crime-he-should-stand-trial/

 

[quinnsong]

Why should we strike Syria and risk killing innocent civilians?

Here's what should happen!

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/10/assad-committed-a-war-crime-he-should-stand-trial/

He will most likely be ripped apart in the streets like his counterpart in Libya.

 

[Captain Kremmen]

@wegs
You mean "Here's what should (ideally) happen."
It aint gonna happen.

 

[Captain Kremmen]

He will most likely be ripped apart in the streets like his counterpart in Libya.

Obama had better not walk the streets of Washington then.
He has a lower approval rating in the United States than Assad in Syria.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/15491675-obama-approval-rating-slips

 

[ElectricFetus]

Try looking at an Atlas.

Yeep, got one here, what am I looking for, eh?

 

[wegs]

@wegs
You mean "Here's what should (ideally) happen."
It aint gonna happen.

You say po-tay-toe, I say po-tah-toe.

Yes...'ideally.'

 

[youreyes]

Yeep, got one here, what am I looking for, eh?

other countries besides states of north america.

 

[Robittybob1]

And probably you won't get the credit.
Still, you know in your own heart that you've saved the world.

I used it on this thread.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread...opellant-invented-by-me&p=3107258#post3107258

See it does work.

 

[Robittybob1]

And probably you won't get the credit.
Still, you know in your own heart that you've saved the world.

I used it on this thread.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread...opellant-invented-by-me&p=3107258#post3107258

Imagine if we had yelled out "WAR! FIGHT! KILL!"? It would be a different place today.

 

[Captain Kremmen]

Yeep, got one here, what am I looking for, eh?

How close the countries are to Russia.

@robbity
It certainly would.

 

[Robittybob1]

''Allows Assad?'' lol The dude should be imprisoned for acts against humanity. He shouldn't be ''rewarded'' for killing his own people. There still needs to be punishment for what this man did. Not war, but he and his regime, need to be removed and tried for crimes against humanity. If you think this man wants 'democracy' ...think again. He doesn't. He needs to be tried for crimes against humanity, period.

The Nuremburg trials come to mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

''Stop'' is fine, but maybe we should open all the prison doors and let all the murderers run free in the world. (as long as they promise to stop murdering) I guess if you are a dictator in a country that has economic value to other countries, then you can get away with murder.

This is what needs to be done:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/As...ia-Massacre_Us-syria-Invasion-130831-338.html

I woke up this morning and even on CNN they said the Americans can live with Assad staying in power, now that is the first time I heard that from the US and that was after what I had said on the thread, so I'm not copying.
Yes he doesn't want democracy but there comes a time when rulers have to come to their senses.
I think he realizes now the time is ready for a change, at least he is still in control. So he can have the role as President but the people are ruled by the elected Parliament.
I think this is a fair outcome. If the plan can be made to work 100% of the CW will be destroyed whereas a military strike would have only taken out 15 -30% of them. ( figures from Amanpour this morning)