The Syrian "Revolution": A Farce from Beginning to End
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One saying I heard this morning was "Success has many fathers, but failure is always an orphan".
"Victory has a thousand fathers; defeat is an orphan". Comment made by JFK in the aftermath of the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, 1961.
I think the rebels are in a much stronger position now than they were 18 months ago- that's the whole reason Hezbollah had to go in with large numbers of its own troops- and even Hezbollah is running into increasingly difficult times lately, unless I'm missing something. If you hoped a president could deliver stability long enough for proper elections to boot his ass out, would you continue to hold out hope for him if he keeps promising victory in a matter of months for years on end? If Assad's popularity is really so high as these ancient polls claim, let him call for an immediate ceasefire and national elections, what's he got to lose?
what's that saying...''better the devil you know, than the devil you don't.''
sad.
When someone says that to me I say: "I'd rather not know the Devil at all".
If Putin's plan is successful, surely he will get this years Nobel Peace Prize.
I wonder how many cases of Rum or Vodka he can swap for that?
Ha! That would definitely be a funny one. He should absolutely get it.
CptBork makes a really nice point I've been worrying about: with Assad not being rendered dead, he could actually have been better entrenched by this. Probably shaking the stick at him and then going back and forth didn't help. A slow buildup to punishment, if I may say in a partisan way, might have rallied support behind him less well.
In the Assad case, you don't have that choice, assuming you have a TV or read newspapers.
Yes, Why not? "Future hopes" are all that is required. Obama got one for nothing, but future hopes.
Putin has severants who keep him well supplied so would not give it away for truck loads.
An interesting article from "The New York Times - The Opinion Pages" yesterday.
The subtitle reads : "What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria".
I am Posting the link only because I truly believe that all sides should have their say - not because I am some sort of "Commie Sympathizer" or any other "libelous name" that some Posters may choose to accuse me of.
It seems to be a well written article that someone put some earnest thought into and although it does not exactly coincide with my views it does touch on some very topical and seemingly valid points from one of "the other sides of the table".
Whether anyone wishes to click the link or not, it is, at the very least, an interesting read! Link :
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/o...n-from-russia-on-syria.html?ref=opinion&_r=2&
The subtitle reads : "What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria".
I am Posting the link only because I truly believe that all sides should have their say - not because I am some sort of "Commie Sympathizer" or any other "libelous name" that some Posters may choose to accuse me of.
It seems to be a well written article that someone put some earnest thought into and although it does not exactly coincide with my views it does touch on some very topical and seemingly valid points from one of "the other sides of the table".
Whether anyone wishes to click the link or not, it is, at the very least, an interesting read! Link :
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/o...n-from-russia-on-syria.html?ref=opinion&_r=2&
Oh yes I follow the Syria situation.
If you think Putin would like to go down in history as the first Russian President to have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize we will be in luck. The Syria crisis will get solved.
@ Captain Kremmen - I noticed our Stop start is starting to work as well.
Lavrov to Kerry - "Take my word for it"
Kerry to Lavrov - "Its a little to early"
They are on good terms to talk like that to each other. Talk of a political settlement as well.
First of all the Russians aren't the soviets anymore, so no commie sympathizer worries.
What Putin does not say
- I have bases in syria I want to keep.
- I sell weapons to syria so they can keep killing people.
- I have citizens in syria, including
- I just don't like toppling dictators or allowing foreign influence in other countries
ElectricFetus, do you also Post under other names? I only ask because there seems to be more than a few Posters on this Forum that somehow completely "believe" what some sources "say" - yet can only "believe" what another source "does not say".
Personally, I have yet to find a single government source or media outlet source or individual source that states "every completely verifiable actual fact".
Although, paradoxically, there seems to be an abundance of sources that choose to state biased, one-sided, incomplete and, more often than not, completely unsubstantiated and unverified "facts".
At any rate I believe it was once said : "The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it."
- Notebook, 1898 - by Mark Twain
We don't discuss this much here, in light of the chemical attacks crisis. But, has anyone been following this?
It's rather frightening.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/08/syrian-rebels-take-christian-village/2781763/
It's rather frightening.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/08/syrian-rebels-take-christian-village/2781763/
What are you rambling about? At least 3 out of 4 of the things 'Putin does not say' are absolutely verified facts.
We don't discuss this much here, in light of the chemical attacks crisis. But, has anyone been following this?
It's rather frightening.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/08/syrian-rebels-take-christian-village/2781763/
Yeah we have been hearing about this kind of stuff for awhile now, you can also find video of rebels beheading people as well, this is why at least I have serious doubts about supporting these people in any way, I can't say what the reasoning is for the rest of america but I suspect its similar and probably one big reason why support for strikes is only a minority.
Yep! Yep! Read em and weep!
Will Russia have the resolve to sort it properly? Fairly? I think this is what Putin said in his letter to the American people that he would see it done fairly.