The Pope speaks: Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things. !!!!!

samcdkey said:
Oh come on does this look like stuff the fundamentalists want people to hear? :p
Of course not - but I wonder what the fundamentalists would say if their followers did hear it? Probably something along the lines of "Well, naturally the Pope only likes good, peaceful, subservient Muslims who allow themselves to be bombed and invaded and occupied..."

In other words, the fundamentalist equivalent of Bush's "You're with us or against us."
 
geistkiesel, are you justifying the terrorist in their actions to day by a belief, and action that was carried out 3000 years ago? Has the world stood still in your eyes? that is the problem with the Moslems today, they justify their action by thing that happened 3000 years ago, and their apologist do the same.
 
The pope quotes from ancient Byzantine text, and now he has now seen fit to retreat from those statements, probably fearing mayhem from the "religion of peace." He was right too.....

Muslims worldwide deny the allegation and demand an apology. Then, just to prove their peaceful disposition they burn some churches and shoot a nun in the back.

The pope should have stood his ground. Those who condemn the words he spoke would kill him anyway for his Christian beliefs.

Anyone who thinks that radical Islam is in a minority need only look at the reaction of these radical "few" to the pope's comments. This reaction should wake up anyone who thinks this is a peaceful religion.
 
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stu43t said:
Muslims worldwide deny the allegation and demand an apology. Then, just to prove their peaceful disposition they burn some churches and shoot a nun in the back.

Aren’t Muslims individuals? How the hell can you attribute violent acts committed by thugs to a fifth of humanity (Muslims)? pls explain.

stu43t said:
The pope should have stood his ground. Those who condemn the words he spoke would kill him anyway for his Christian beliefs.

Haha. You’re talking complete nonsense here.

stu43t said:
Anyone who thinks that radical Islam is in a minority need only look at the reaction of these radical "few" to the pope's comments. This reaction should wake up anyone who thinks this is a peaceful religion.

Guilty until proven innocent...

My friend, you’re promoting religious hatred.

:eek:
 
Ghost_007 said:
My friend, you’re promoting religious hatred.

:eek:

No I'm afraid you are wrong - muslims are doing that all by themselves.

BTW do you regard yourself as British or as a muslim?

British Christians describe themselves as British.

How do you describe yourself?
 
stu43t said:
BTW do you regard yourself as British or as a muslim?

British Christians describe themselves as British.

How do you describe yourself?

How do I describe myself?...

British
 
Ghost_007 said:
Aren’t Muslims individuals?

By definition as people they are individuals - but class themselves as "brothers" do they not? Brothers as in groups and masses. They are individuals who claim to be of Islam rather then a nationality. They are brainwashed liked into believing the hogwash that is spewed out. They belong in labels or boxes which they place themselves into by choice or by rearing, and become sunnies, shiites etc. They can't even get along with themselves let alone the rest of the world.

The whole world has seen the "tolerance" of Islam, and needless to say the whole world knows it has no tolerance.

Just how peaceful is the Muslim faith when they cannot accept criticism without bloodshed? Where are the moderate Muslims seeking to calm the storm? Are they to afraid of the radicals? How can the Muslim faith teach peace and cooperation when they are also killing themselves in the name of Allah?
 
stu43t said:
By definition as people they are individuals - but class themselves as "brothers" do they not? Brothers as in groups and masses. They are individuals who claim to be of Islam rather then a nationality. They are brainwashed liked into believing the hogwash that is spewed out. They belong in labels or boxes which they place themselves into by choice or by rearing, and become sunnies, shiites etc. They can't even get along with themselves let alone the rest of the world.

The whole world has seen the "tolerance" of Islam, and needless to say the whole world knows it has no tolerance.

Just how peaceful is the Muslim faith when they cannot accept criticism without bloodshed? Where are the moderate Muslims seeking to calm the storm? Are they to afraid of the radicals? How can the Muslim faith teach peace and cooperation when they are also killing themselves in the name of Allah?

* reading *

.....Where is your point?

Please spare the rhetoric and jibber jabber.
 
What happens when the pope quotes a Byzantine leader to make his point about the futility of violence between religions -- what do we get??

We get a dead nun, churches burned, the leader of the world's billion Catholics burned in effigy, hordes of angry Muslims demonstrating in the streets and demanding that the pope be hunted down and slaughtered, all of which proved the point stressed by the pope in the 14th century.

And what’s worst of all, we get silence from the leaders of the West.

The pope was dangling out there all by himself. There is not one leader in any part of the world -- left, right, center, or anywhere in between -- standing up for the pope. The silence from Bush and Blair speak volumes.
 
Ghost_007 said:
* reading *

.....Where is your point?

Please spare the rhetoric and jibber jabber.



OK - just tell me how peaceful and tolerant Islam is.

From a British Muslims point of view


Brit/Pak JIH4DY ?????????????????????????
 
stu43t said:
OK - just tell me how peaceful and tolerant Islam is.

From a British Muslims point of view
dear Stu

i hope you are well

Please can you read some of mine and ghosts posts.....

I dont have the time to go through it all again, how about you ghost

You guys bore me to tears now, saying how intolerant and inflexible muslims are when you guys have equally non fleixble and intolerant views.

You see the difference between me, ghost, sam and you, kiwi and others is that we listen.. we dont come out with the usual shit all the time.


stu43t said:
Brit/Pak JIH4DY ?????????????????????????
[/QUOTE]

Whats this meant to mean????
 
Zakariya04 said:
Brit/Pak JIH4DY

Whats this meant to mean????



Brit/Pak JIH4DY is Ghosts motto - it's under his name if you haven't noticed

So Zakky - how about you - in your own words will you explain to everyone on the forum just exactly how peaceful and tolerant Islam is - not too much to ask is it?
 
Ghost_007 said:
* reading *

.....Where is your point?

Please spare the rhetoric and jibber jabber.

Just answer the questions - its that simple!!

Just how peaceful is the Muslim faith when they cannot accept criticism without bloodshed?

Where are the moderate Muslims seeking to calm the storm? Are they too afraid of the radicals?

How can the Muslim faith teach peace and cooperation when they are also killing themselves in the name of Allah?
 
stu43t said:
Brit/Pak JIH4DY is Ghosts motto - it's under his name if you haven't noticed

So Zakky - how about you - in your own words will you explain to everyone on the forum just exactly how peaceful and tolerant Islam is - not too much to ask is it?
hi Stu
Thank you for your post

So it is!! my sincere apologies to you Stu

sorry i am one of the most intolerant people on this forum......with regards to the to whabiists who give my religion a bad name.

and please look through all my posts where i ahve tried to cover all these issues (not just this thread)
 
Zakariya04 said:
dear Stu

i hope you are well

Please can you read some of mine and ghosts posts.....

I dont have the time to go through it all again, how about you ghost

You guys bore me to tears now, saying how intolerant and inflexible muslims are when you guys have equally non fleixble and intolerant views.

You see the difference between me, ghost, sam and you, kiwi and others is that we listen.. we dont come out with the usual shit all the time.







Whats this meant to mean????



Zak

I'm fasting so I don't wanna get in an argument.

You should understand by the very fact that stu123 has no idea what Jihad means how low his level of awareness is (or how high his love of BS).

I'm only debating with people who are interested in an honest debate.

Keep up your good work.
 
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