The Pope speaks: Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things. !!!!!

samcdkey said:
Too bad we don't have any such men in Islam or Christianity today.

Hmm, we do! Osama for the Muslims, and ......ahh, old whats-his-name for the Christians!

Baron Max
 
samcdkey said:
Yes. He was a good man who worked diligently to bring about understanding between religions. Too bad we don't have any such men in Islam or Christianity today.

Well you're right by saying there are no such men in Islam.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Why are they so quick to condemn the Pope for words, yet they never seem to totally condemn the Islamic Mujahideen for their deeds, and their actions of intolerance towards any other religion, even other Moslems or different sects.

Sam make a clear declaration of the fact that the Moslem terrorist are evil and that their war of conversion by the sword is not acceptable, or are you afraid that the terrorist will deliver their version of my way or lose your head theology to you.

Good question for Sam there - shame she ignored it.
 
Sam, make a clear declaration of the fact that the Moslem terrorist are evil...

That's the one I'm waiting for her to answer! And I see no way for her to do it without giving tacit approval for blowing up/killing innocent women and children. She seems to condemn Israel for the attacks on Lebanon, yet she's never said a word of condemnation about terrorist attacks. Huh?

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
That's the one I'm waiting for her to answer! And I see no way for her to do it without giving tacit approval for blowing up/killing innocent women and children. She seems to condemn Israel for the attacks on Lebanon, yet she's never said a word of condemnation about terrorist attacks. Huh?

Baron Max

I did. You just haven't read far enough back into the archives.

I actually think the US and Saudi Arabia are both responsible for the terrorism too; the US by their foreign policy and the Saudis by their religious extremism and funding of madrassas. I'm against all terrorists whether religious or state.

Kissing cousins so to speak

 
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samcdkey said:
I actually think the US and Saudi Arabia are both responsible for the terrorism .....

Responsible for? In other words, you're still not going to condemn the willful murder of innocent women and children by mad-dog terrorists? You still want to try to spread the blame around ....so as to keep from making that simple condemnation?

Do you feel the same way about murderers, Sam? You don't condemn murder, but blame it on something waaaaay back in history?

But responsible for? Why not Palestinians? Nor Yemen? Nor Sudan? Nor Afghanistan? Nor Iran? Nor Syria? Nor .........any of the other gazillion Muslim nations and people of the world? Just like that ...only the US and Saudi??????

And, Sam, just so you know, I don't think a sovereign NATION can commit "terrorism" ....I'm pretty sure that "terrorism" is limited to individuals.

Baron Max
 
samcdkey said:
I actually think the US and Saudi Arabia are both responsible for the terrorism too; the US by their foreign policy and the Saudis by their religious extremism and funding of madrassas.

What key US foreign policies are directly resulting in Muslim terrorism? What other countries or religions are retaliating with terrorism as a result of US foreign policies? Why are Muslim terrorists targeting other countries due to US foreign policies?
 
Baron Max said:
Responsible for? In other words, you're still not going to condemn the willful murder of innocent women and children by mad-dog terrorists? You still want to try to spread the blame around ....so as to keep from making that simple condemnation?

Do you feel the same way about murderers, Sam? You don't condemn murder, but blame it on something waaaaay back in history?

But responsible for? Why not Palestinians? Nor Yemen? Nor Sudan? Nor Afghanistan? Nor Iran? Nor Syria? Nor .........any of the other gazillion Muslim nations and people of the world? Just like that ...only the US and Saudi??????

And, Sam, just so you know, I don't think a sovereign NATION can commit "terrorism" ....I'm pretty sure that "terrorism" is limited to individuals.

Baron Max

It hasn't been defined yet remember?

However if you google "state terrorism", you get interesting results.

http://www.google.com/search?hs=3V6...:en-US:official&q=state+terrorism&btnG=Search
 
(Q) said:
What key US foreign policies are directly resulting in Muslim terrorism? What other countries or religions are retaliating with terrorism as a result of US foreign policies? Why are Muslim terrorists targeting other countries due to US foreign policies?

Let's just cut to the chase. Pretend I told you already and you don't believe a word it.
 
So, Sam, ....you're only gonna' make that one lousy comment ...that has little to do with my post anyway? And ye're not going to answer the other points at all? ..hoping, perhaps that it'll all go away?

Baron Max
 
samcdkey said:
Let's just cut to the chase. Pretend I told you already and you don't believe a word it.

Well, that's an interesting response!? Duh???

Is that the same tactics you use in discussions in your regular, real life, Sam? You make statments as if they're fact, then if anyone questions you or your statement, you just, what, get up and leave? ...LOL!

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
Well, that's an interesting response!? Duh???

Is that the same tactics you use in discussions in your regular, real life, Sam? You make statments as if they're fact, then if anyone questions you or your statement, you just, what, get up and leave? ...LOL!

Baron Max

Nope, I was just making it easy for (Q). He despises me for being a degenerate Muslim, so it's pointless discussing anything with him.
 
Baron Max said:
So, Sam, ....you're only gonna' make that one lousy comment ...that has little to do with my post anyway? And ye're not going to answer the other points at all? ..hoping, perhaps that it'll all go away?

Baron Max

I've been discussing this stuff for the last two months now.

Nope, just the US and the Sauds.

If you are interested you might read this.

Of course, its only a professor in an American university so you need not believe a word of it.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/robert_elias_25sept2001.htm
 
samcdkey said:
Let's just cut to the chase. Pretend I told you already and you don't believe a word it.

Oh, oh, sam appears to be running out of shiny objects - whatever will she do?

Perhaps if we do pretend, those nasty US foreign policies will magically disappear.

Let's close our eyes, tap our heels together three times and say, 'There's no place like the US, there's no place like the US...
 
(Q) said:
Oh, oh, sam appears to be running out of shiny objects - whatever will she do?

Perhaps if we do pretend, those nasty US foreign policies will magically disappear.

Let's close our eyes, tap our heels together three times and say, 'There's no place like the US, there's no place like the US...

See isn't this much better? I can save my breath and you get to have fun anyway.

I like this way- both of us can have fun. ;)
 
samcdkey said:
Nope, I was just making it easy for (Q). He despises me for being a degenerate Muslim, so it's pointless discussing anything with him.

Strangely enough though, sams johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to propaganda, especially when it's concerned with Muslims saving the world by kick-starting the Renaissance with their brilliant scientific discoveries, written, produced and directed by the Quran.
 
Ya know, it's a damn good thing when visiting Muslims can live in the US free to despise it without getting their heads chopped off.
 
(Q) said:
Ya know, it's a damn good thing when visiting Muslims can live in the US free to despise it without getting their heads chopped off.

But I'm glad I came here.

At least I can confidently tell people that just like in KSA, its not the people who suck, just the governemnt.
 
samcdkey said:
I've been discussing this stuff for the last two months now.

Okay, in that case I won't press the issue.

samcdkey said:
If you are interested you might read this. Of course, its only a professor in an American university so you need not believe a word of it.

I'm not going to read it, Sam, but I would strongly, STRONGLY caution you against believing anything that you find on the Internet without doing an enormous amount of checking and verifying the facts and the evidence. Anyone can say and/or predict and/or accuse anyone, any government of almost anything without being held to account for it. and that does nothing but make mad-men come out and post stuff for their own agenda ...think of it as fiction that's been mislabelled as non-fiction!

Baron Max
 
samcdkey said:
At least I can confidently tell people that just like in KSA, its not the people who suck, just the governemnt.

No, sorry, Sam, but you're wrong ......the people suck, too!!!! :)

And even if you don't believe it, I'm glad you came here, too. I'm just glad you don't live within artillery-shell range of my home! ...LOL!

Baron Max
 
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