The Mormon Jesus vs. The Gospel Jesus?
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Oh dear, Smith had a rap sheet and some gullible followers. The rest kinda follows. It's not prophecy, it's public relations. The simple fact is that Smith was a conman, and some people remain conned to this day.
Sounds like a Heavy Metal album cover. Oh wait, Smith did have groupies.
Anyone see this last night;
http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/cult.html
Yet another cult leader, that used his position to get sex. This blaggard screwed his son's wife, and had quite young female church members lay naked with him on his bed. There was only one young boy in the congregation, all the rest were female.
http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/cult.html
Yet another cult leader, that used his position to get sex. This blaggard screwed his son's wife, and had quite young female church members lay naked with him on his bed. There was only one young boy in the congregation, all the rest were female.
"christianities" christ and god is intangible and confusing. after the white lights at the end of the tunnel, what? u can't see god.
one thing smith did have going, was a more logical approach to his theism. a god u can actually relate with. one who ressurects with a reason, to have a body. not to just ressurect and obliviate into trinity. a father and son, who are actually a father and son. a spirit that is actually just purely spirit.
one thing smith did have going, was a more logical approach to his theism. a god u can actually relate with. one who ressurects with a reason, to have a body. not to just ressurect and obliviate into trinity. a father and son, who are actually a father and son. a spirit that is actually just purely spirit.
Does ones religion matter as long as it brings him/her closer to God? I dont think there is just one path, one religion that brings one closer to God.
It is easy to belittle those you do not know. If you do not know moromonism, I suggest getting to know some mormans. After you have met them and come to know them, then pass your judgement. Ask them your questions? Ask them about the rumors.
It is easy to belittle those you do not know. If you do not know moromonism, I suggest getting to know some mormans. After you have met them and come to know them, then pass your judgement. Ask them your questions? Ask them about the rumors.
I do not believe God has a preference for religous idealogy. That is mans' hangup not Gods.
As you say..if the scriptures or religous system in question helps people with understanding the concept of God and brings them closer,then it's good.
Unconditional love and being selfless in your attitude are the important qualities to achieve.This was demonstrated by various religous figures and is not exclusive to one religion.
Sadly too many people have 'met their maker' due to religious difficulties, so religion satisfies your point there, it has brought people to their God quickly!
Sadly, that is not the common view, so terms such as heretic and infidel are thrown around.
Oh, but I have. A guy I used to share a house with was approached by Mormons, and he, being Italian, was raised as a Catholic, so had a good background in Christianity, and these Mormons thought they could rekindle some religious feelings in him. They visited each week for about an hour, and we sat and talked, and we read the Book of Mormon, and sometimes they brought films to illustrate the Mormon point of view. After a while, they brought their Church Elder around, we asked him a lot of awkward questions about Mormonism, about Brigham young usurping the church, about Joseph Smith describing the people that lived on the Moon, about the racism in the early church, about Smith's criminal record, about discrepancies in the Book of Mormon, about the lack of anthropological support for Smith's assertions about early America, and he said he would come back with the answers.
He, nor the missionaries ever came back.
Seems some truths do not sit alongside faith.
W
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Looks “presidential”? Not “presidential” enough? What type of values do you place on people you vote for? What are the qualifications before you put your mark on the ballot?
Let me guess:
Must be male
Needs ‘blue eyes’,
strong chin,
Must be Republican
able to talk w/ ease before TV cameras
smile w/ all 32 teeth showing?
Yep! That’s Mitt alright
I guess that being a flip-flopper don’t count against him, like Republicans say it counts so heavily against Democrats, that in years past, Republicans would make sure it was noted by all, if not, then they shouted it if need be & the ads, oh the ads; lets see
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119904/posts or:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1246852.html
Women are taking bullets for you on the front lines of Iraq
Politically Incorrect Hottie? You mean, hopelessly politically disconnected, & you really vote??? We’re doomed, shot me now, the culture wars are over, dumbo won
Dems say:
They probably did not think you were serious. I have never heard anything about Smith and moon people. Can you provide evidence of same?
When looking at a presidential candidate's religion, I would only be interested in if his/her core values conflicted with the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. In terms of core values Mormons are not different from other Christians in any significant way. Electing a Muslim would be problematic since they believe Sharia Law supersedes any man made law, and Sharia Law is inconsistent with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
W
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contra-Biblical you mean, for all the BYU archaeologists that have tried to prove LDS true, not one shred of evidence, no ancient LDS temples, no liturgy, no funky underwear, no polygamists nor strange theology, so if LDS is really what the Primitive 1st Century church looked like, wheres the proof?
Neither Paul, Luke, Peter nor John ever wrote letters to Mormon or about mormonism. Seems to me, that out of a verse here & there, whole theologies are assumed by LDS, almost like J. Smith's degrees of the Egyptian alphabet (see sample below), problem with that is that the ancient Egyptians were not "Vegans" like in the movie "Contact", overlaying complex messages into 3 dimensions or degrees
can you support Kolob from the Bible or how about men on the moon? holy underwear?
if no one had been able to really translate hieroglyphics, you could go on with that BIG lie, but alas, Jean-François Champollion was able to finally do that by translating the Rosetta Stone in 1822, thus putting J. Smith in some very bad light
see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-François_Champollion
& now even you can translate Egyptian, or transliterate like this: http://www.quizland.com/hiero.htm
Owl+Arm+Mouth+Lion+Reed Leaf+Water =Marlin
then modern misfortune came about once more, when the papyri that J. Smith had daned to translate, turned up once again, again putting him in a bad lightsample of J. Smith's work
WBY, I'm done arguing with you. I was done a long time ago. Talking with you about Mormonism is like trying to convince a flat-earther that the world is round, even when I produce valid evidence to prove my arguments. You've made your decision that Mormonism is false and nothing is going to dissuade you. I leave you to your wilfull ignorance.
For others, however, let me just say that the arguments WBY is bringing up are old, tired, and already disproven and/or answered as much as 50 years ago. For those interested in real answers to such arguments, I suggest the following web sites:
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/
and the official LDS web site,
http://www.lds.org/
For others, however, let me just say that the arguments WBY is bringing up are old, tired, and already disproven and/or answered as much as 50 years ago. For those interested in real answers to such arguments, I suggest the following web sites:
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/
and the official LDS web site,
http://www.lds.org/
Marlin, those arguments made by WBY have not been disproven, it's just that the LDS Church dishonestly edits it's own scriptures of things that get proven to be false, and then disowns the offending material. Just take the climb downs on polygamy and racism. Not that LDS have stopped practising either, they just do it quietly.
All religions are made up bullshit, Mormonism is no better than any other.
All religions are made up bullshit, Mormonism is no better than any other.
"For a fact?" I doubt your definition of "fact" lines up with the rest of the real world's. Facts are statements supported by evidence. Could you perhaps share with us a "fact" about magic underwear? I've been dying to get a straight answer from someone of the Mormon cult about this.
Here ya go:
Mormon Underwear
Oh, and BTW, you're not going to make very many LDS friends if you call the Church a "cult."
Mormon Underwear
Oh, and BTW, you're not going to make very many LDS friends if you call the Church a "cult."
Having discussed it at length with two Mormon Missionaries, I know for a fact that it is flawed, inconsistent, revised, dishnonest, and was devised by a liar and a conman.
But you have been brainwashed by the cult, so what would you know?