Lori 7 reply Mk. 2
G'Day Lori 7. I am going to give it another try.
Lori_7 said:
I never did understand the logic behind this candidate. Maybe you could explain. What does electronic funds transfer systems have to do with salvation and rebirth in Christ?
Very little. But what is very significant is the process people will have to go through to qualify for the Mark. The Mark of the beast is a satanic reward for worship given to the Beast.
Lets read the scripture so we can get some context and a handle on the sequence of events leading up to the mark of the beast:
Revelation 13
11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. ( Oh as an interesting side issue note how the beast coming up out of the earth has horns like a
"lamb" this verse is talking about the false prophet, A leader of a false religion, a counterfit of the true lamb. Now lets see what he does) 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence,
and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And
he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and
cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
So before the mention of the mark of the beast people will be tested by being required to worship the beast. If the fail to worship him then they will be killed. See by worshiping the beast as God on earth, and that is the claim the beast will make (He will claim to be God) then they will be calling Evil Good. Remember Lori how the pharisees blasphemed the Holy Spirit by saying that Jesus did his signs by the power of the king of the demons? They where calling Good Evil. What’s worse Calling Good Evil or calling Evil Good?
Are you assuming that you'll have to deny Christ in order to buy or sell something?
Yes Lori that's exactly what i am saying. If one is going to worship the image of the beast then of course they will have denied Christ.
What if someone lies just to get what they need?
Lori God assures us that only those who have rejected the Love of the truth will be deceived by the anti-christ and his false prophet.
2 Thessalonians 2
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish,
because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason
God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
Scripture assures us that God will only cause those who have rejected the Love of the Truth to be deceived. I believe those that believe in false religion will believe the Anti-Christ is the returned Messiah Jesus.
Lori you posted about that "Rock Star" that received a mark? Whatever He received (and i am not saying it was not evil) but what ever it was, it was not the true Mark of the Beast:
Revelation 13
16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that
no one may
buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
If He did have the Mark of the Beast you would not be able to buy or sell anything, Because you do not have that Mark.
Lori you also said that the "Rock Star" was saved from the Mark. No one can be saved once they have received the mark of the beast. Revelation states:
Revelation 14
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,
“If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.11 And the smoke of
their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and
whoever receives the mark of his name.”
So Lori the mark of the beast is the last step in a sequence, those that worship the beast will have no problems in taking the mark. Because they will be given over to deception and the deception will be very convincing indeed.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
What does that tell you. 