Bells
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Violent Chimps
During a series of genocidal massacres in Rwanda and Burundi that at one point left 10,000 human bodies floating ashore on Lake Victoria, a Harvard anthropologist traveled to war-weary Central Africa to investigate the origins of human violence. But instead of studying the fighting Hutu and Tutsi tribes, professor of anthropology Richard Wrangham plunged into the "time machine" of the rainforests to examine Homo sapiens' closest genetic relatives, the chimpanzees and pygmy chimpanzees, or bonobo apes.
In a new book, Demonic Males (Houghton Mifflin), which Wrangham wrote with science writer Dale Peterson, he reveals how he found a glimmer of hope that humanity could reduce its violence and overcome its five-million-year rap sheet of murder and war. Wrangham bases his optimism on the discovery that bonobos create peaceful societies in which males and females share power--while the biologically similar chimpanzees live in patriarchal groups in which males regularly rape, beat, kill, and sometimes even drink the blood of their own kind.
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Although bonobo males are occasionally aggressive, they are usually discouraged from killing or raping by tight-knit bands of females that gang up on and attack aggressive males. The glue for these closely bonded groups of females is regular female-to-female, missionary-position sex, Wrangham writes. Such female-to-female sexual bonding is thought to be unique in the nonhuman animal world.
Wrangham avoids drawing close parallels between bonobos and human beings. He doesn't believe, for example, that lesbianism is the answer to human warfare. Instead, he takes a broader look at the species' behavior patterns, seeing female bonding and alliance-building in general as a weapon against the dominance of violent males. "I believe that Fyodor Dostoevsky got it right in The Brothers Karamazov, when he wrote that we all have a demon in us," Wrangham says. "And I can only hope that by understanding this, we can reduce this demon a little bit."
http://harvardmagazine.com/1997/01/right.chimp.html
Interesting article - just sayin'...
Yes it is a very good article. And this has something to do with another animal using sex to terrorise and harm others?
What it shows is that female bonobos use sex to bond with each other. Not to terrorise and harm others.
I mean sure, there may be some out there in the world who see lesbian sex as harming others, but I am fairly certain you are too educated for that, correct?
In the complete absence of any biological component to the rape phenomenon, I'm curious - why are women twice as likely to get pregnant when raped vs engaging in consensual sex? Even after factoring out use of birth control, etc.:
Makes one wonder...
Not really.
Why does rape result in increased risk of pregnancy? This remains an open question. The Gottschalls reject some possibilities. These include the idea that rape induces ovulation, (copulation does stimulate the release of an egg in some species), that rapists have more virile sperm, and that rapists possess a special capacity to detect women who are ovulating. They do toss out a couple of conjectures they consider reasonable. The first is that rapists target women who are particularly fertile based on factors such as beauty and age. The second is that women unconsciously "broadcast cues about their ovulatory status that men are capable of registering and interpreting." These hypothetical unconscious cues could be physiological (e.g. body odor, subtle changes in skin tone) or behavioral. To their credit, however, the authors admit that there is little evidence to support their conjectures.
When even the authors of the studies about the prevalence of pregnancies in rape victims dismiss a biological cue because there is so little evidence to support it, it doesn't really make you wonder.
Every single woman I know of who married an abusive man, had no idea he would abuse them. I know several of these men from before they married them. There was no sign of violence, even anger, no sign of even controlling behaviour.. no sign whatsoever that 1 - 10 years down the track, their husband was going to start beating them to a pulp. In just about all cases, these guys were quite literally perfect. Polite, calm, quick to please, very romantic, very loving and understanding. The same applies with male victims I know who were/are in abusive relationships. You do realise they exist, yes?billvon said:However, a woman should use common sense and not marry violent, irresponsible and/or criminal men. Fortunately most make such sensible decisions - which is why that particular bit of sense is, in fact, common. This, of course, does not excuse rape.
At last 5 of these abusive spouses started to abuse their wives after they started cheating on them.
It is a common misconception that there are always signs beforehand. Unless the woman (or man, since you know, men are also victims of domestic violence) is a trained psychologist, trained to recognise and see these signs, then the victim has very little chance of being able to identify it.
Which has what to do with rape?Other common sense issues:
A woman should use common sense and not leave her guns lying around where anyone can access them. Fortunately most people make such sensible decisions. This, of course, does not excuse criminals who would use those guns to kill her.
A woman should use common sense and not wander around the highway when drunk. Fortunately most people make the sensible decision not to do that. This, of course, does not excuse someone who sees her and decides to ram her.
A woman should use common sense and not carry her money hanging out of her back pocket. Fortunately most people make the sensible decision to not do that. This, of course, does not excuse someone who steals her money from her.
A woman should use common sense and not leave her keys in the ignition in public parking lots. Fortunately most people make the sensible decision to not do that. This, of course, does not excuse someone who steals her car.
I really like how you keep focus on the woman who should use her common sense. Men and children of all ages? Naw, this doesn't apply to them. Only women are supposed to just know.. spidey senses.. rapedar!
How is a woman to know that the man she has known and trusted for years is going to rape her one day? How is a woman to know and what kind of common sense requirement should women have, when it's her husband who one day out of the blue, decides to rape her? What about those raped by a parent or sibling? Or boyfriend? Friend? Uncle? Neighbour?
See, these common sense rape prevention strategies always, and I mean always, deliberately ignore that the majority of rapes are committed by men and women known to the rapist. Most are in a very close relationship with their rapist prior to the rape. I know, I get it, you're just one of those people who believe that women just know these things, that they can read the signs.
I know you believe that women (and men and children - don't forget, men, women and children are raped, not just women) have a sort of 'rapedar', an inbuilt radar that can somehow or other pick out who is her/his potential rapist and as such, she/he should use common sense amongst such men.. Sadly, people do not have such 'rapedars'. We just wish we did.