We have one mind but two parts: the conscious and subconscious. The conscious portion consist of about 10% of our thinking ability and the subconscious consists of about 90%. Our conscious mind consists of what is available to our conscious thinking process. It is the analytical, rational, logical, two plus two is four part of the mind. The subconscious is not logical and it contains our emotions, habits, automatic responses, feelings, instincts, impressions and much of our memory. One of the peculiarities of the subconscious mind is that the subconscious mind cannot tell the difference between imagination and reality. In regards to memory; a thought, image, idea whether real or not, repeated often enough or when emotionally charged, becomes like a real memory to the subconscious mind.
[A] condition in which a person's identity and interpersonal relationships are centered around a memory of traumatic experience which is objectively false but in which the person strongly believes. Note that the syndrome is not characterized by false memories as such. We all have memories that are inaccurate. Rather, the syndrome may be diagnosed when the memory is so deeply ingrained that it orients the individual's entire personality and lifestyle, in turn disrupting all sorts of other adaptive behavior. The analogy to personality disorder is intentional. False Memory Syndrome is especially destructive because the person assiduously avoids confrontation with any evidence that might challenge the memory. Thus it takes on a life of its own, encapsulated and resistant to correction. The person may become so focused on memory that he or she may be effectively distracted from coping with the real problems in his or her life.
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|"Psychological studies have shown that it is virtually impossible |
|to tell the difference between a real memory and one that is a |
|product of imagination or some other process." |
| Elizabeth Loftus |
| "Memory Faults and Fixes" |
| Issues in Science and Technology, Summer 2002 |
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http://www.hypnogenesis.com/pdurbin1.htm
Confabulation, also known as false memory is the confusion of imagination with memory, and/or the confusion of true memories with false memories. [1] Confabulation can result from both organic and psychological causes.[2]
Please tell me that this is satire...
There is an illness called 'False Memory Syndrome'...
FMS..
There is confabulation....
....But I don't think you will get any satire
I'm going for confabulation...
There may well be labels and psycological conditions out there that lead to false memory most I would imagine are brought about by a trauma of some kind.
However I chose to trust my memories simply because since childhood they've been with me. I have other memories again with me since childhood they include using the kings chamber in the cheops pyramid. Again I learnt about Egypt in adult life yet the memory was with me in childhood.
Compiled from other threads
1)A fish,specificly a salmon as you remember swiming upstream
2)A bird,
3)A lion,you remember hating hyena's
4)A musician, because you saw a picture when you were 6
5)Egyptian as You have used the kings chamber as a stargate which transported you to another star system,
6)You remember taking over the body you are in when you were 7 (as you are not the original owner of it),and you died when the original p/moan was 7 and entered his body.
7) quote p/moan...."I managed to find out about my previous lifetime I won't say who they were but I do recall them dying of a very rare kind of cancer and where they lived and worked was also verifyed by their records. I even remember the nationalty of the doctor who saw me."
8)you are an energy which has been around since before the begining of time/pre-big bang quote p/moan..I could simply manipulate the matter around me, moving vast amounts of water for example, moving rocks with thought, and being able to pass through matter with ease.
You are capable of....
Bending time,
Stop traffic with your mind,
communicate with other dimension's,
You have sent everyone in a bar to sleep with your mind,
you travel to the astral world using outerbody experiences
Well, if you really do have all of those memories, then good for you, mate. It must make for one hell of an interesting life, to say the least.
Points to illness.....seriouslyhas made me depressed and frustrated if anything.
Enough to want to kill myself to get to the prize.
you have said you have had proof before and refused to give it.....There will always be people like P'hoof who need proof and can come up with some cleveer condition for false memories, I pitty them as they will always base their lives and existances on factual evidence when it's not that easy..
I pitty them as they will always base their lives and existances on factual evidence when it's not that easy.
Maybe it has something to do with the age of a soul, the older the soul the further back they can remember.
Because we've been dispersed over time and most if not all have lost their memory of this event. I'm lucky in that i remember my memories from lifetime to lifetime but obviously most people don't
Hang on a moment Pharoahmoan, whether your mad, lying or winding everyone up is a matter for debate. However, you can't seriously actually believe in this bollocks. The farting unicorn analogy was a bit extreme, but they're absolutely right.
That is one of the stupidest sentences I have ever read.
So you're saying you don't base your beliefs in fact? (ie) They are false?
If the world lived on what you consider to be your more enlightened wavelength, we'd all be back to the Dark Ages. You think everything you've guessed to be correct is the truth, if I imagined a world where I was God and had the ability to read everyone's minds would that world be real?
Do you not accept that there is a marked difference in reality between what we experience when we are asleep and what we experience when we are awake?
Again, you can't seriously actually believe this bollocks.
I mean, it's not even consistent bollocks.
You quoted me twice, within the same page, and gave completely different answers. Firstly you weren't sure, but over night you seemed to have been visited by the ghost of a Christmas yet to come.
Me:
"Why doesn't everyone remember this infinitesimal amount of time then? Personally my first memory stretches back only to the infancy of 'this life'; and I'm most certainly not the only one."
If you can't see how knowing the facts alone is enough to asscend out of the quagmire that is human existance then your in the dark/dark ages yourself. I feel a unity the macrocosm which has greater purpose.
I'm certainly not gonna justify myself to you as you have no idea who or what I am about and my journey to get to the levels of awareness i have reached. The fact of the matter in that bigger pciture I will distance myself from people with opinions like your's. You will become part of the past, forgotton about.
I'd be interested to know your theories, if you have any, on life after death.
Plus, if you do 'believe' in the mostly monotheistic idea of heaven and hell (for example), do you have any reasons for this except for a blind faith?
I'm not seeking to pick apart anyone's belief systems, only ascertain the motives behind them. Also, I love hearing other theories on an 'afterlife', which contain a more scientific viewpoint.
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Mes deux cents:
When we're talking about life after death, we're really questioning the idea of existence. Physically, the atoms that once made up our bodies will always exist* (and the energy we contained in our bodies will never be destroyed), but because we will not be consciously aware of this, we don't generally consider it to be a continuation of life.
However, and I know this will sound like a I-dodge-the-brutal-truth-by-making-things-sound-poetic spiel, but isn't our persona (our soul?) merely a collection of our memories, inherent characteristics and the thoughts we form with them?
Therefore, if this is recorded, our persona will still exist. In not only our diaries, letters, photographs and videos, but in the memories of others?
Or, do we have a spirit, which exists within us, but also dies when we do?
Essentially, I believe in no afterlife, and think that many ideas surrounding one spout from a fear of the unknown. However, I still feel like I am being very closed minded, and would love to be persuaded to believe, or at least brought to appreciate, other points of view.
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* I once read somewhere that about 98% of the atoms that make up our bodies are exchanged every 5-10 years. So, based on that, we are quite literally a completely different person to the one we were 15 years ago.
Ha ha, touched a nerve have I?
That's the point, you don't 'know' anything, these are just your own theories. Plus, you're not addressing the point at all.
This week I'm on work experience, and I'm working in the local hospital. The ward I've actually been placed in is for more long-term patients and is practically a nursing home. A handful of patients suffer from Alzheimer's or a more general dementia.
One man, who we will call Mr B., was adamant that someone had left a pint of beer near his bed. Everyone except Mr B. agreed that there was nothing there.
During the last few weeks of my great aunt's life, she would sometimes awake briefly and realise we were all sitting around her bed. She used to call my mother over, point at the bottom of her bed and say, "that's a lovely kitten isn't it? Followed me all the way home from school."
There was no cat on her bed.
Yes, these are extreme cases of delirium and no, I'm not trying to tell you that you are mentally ill. I'm merely trying to illustrate my point and ascertain your rather strange one.
Were the pint of beer and the cat actually there? The two examples 'knew' in their own minds that they were. Where do you draw this line of unproven reality, Pharoahmoan?
All people can become deluded at any age...!!!!I don't really identify with your examples as there are of old people and we all know that people can become delirious with age.
.Those that believe in science alone will never be privy to these marvels of organisation and spirituality, and in my opinion spirituality is king as eventually some of us wil be reconnected to the source. I doubt atheists will be prepared at their time of death for being reunited with the source as they don't even believe in it.
I don't really identify with your examples as there are of old people and we all know that people can become delirious with age.
Life isn't just about proof in fact the spirit craves connection to nature. It is touched by music and love, it is swayed by emotion. All these things are an indication that the spirit within is alive.
All people can become deluded at any age...!!!!
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Atheism is a disbelief in deities so it is irrelavent as they can believe in an afterlife,be spiritual.....
It doesn't make sense to me how you can claim to be so enlightened and have this amassed knowledge over lifetimes yet have also said how you are frustrated to the point of suicide, and how you would find it easy to kill those you would class as evil (or had opposing beliefs to you).....
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79297&page=2
To me this seems like you are walking on the wrong path, it doesn't seem harmonious or enlightening to me at all...
Meaningless after meaningless after misunderstood words...
So your just guessing what another's belief is,I.E. an Atheist does not believe in God so he doesn't believe in anything........thats plain ignorance.I haven't conducted a survey but I would say the majority of atheists are non-spiritual and are concerned with the physical and not the etherical or paranormal.
So you would kill anything thats does not fit into your idealment of harmony...which is nothing more than a disharmonious action in itselfAnd yes i still hold fast to the fact that I would find it easy to eliminate anything that causes disharmony to the creational aspect of existance by a minority.
Well when you deny the possability of any type of mistake on your part and threaten to harm yourself to prove yourself right....and kill those that are not on the same cloud of thought as you that is not enlightenment that is confusion.............you claim enlightenment yet claim frustration to the point of suicide.........and you think thats enlightenment.I know exactly the path I walk how it seems to you is not relevant to me, you're not my preacher thank God. You are not me therefore cannot truly know me.
False Memory Syndrome is especially destructive because the person assiduously avoids confrontation with any evidence that might challenge the memory. Thus it takes on a life of its own, encapsulated and resistant to correction. The person may become so focused on memory that he or she may be effectively distracted from coping with the real problems in his or her life.
I am open-minded to many things but i'm not going to believe anyone who claims such grandoise things on thier word alone...Confabulation, also known as false memory is the confusion of imagination with memory, and/or the confusion of true memories with false memories. [1] Confabulation can result from both organic and psychological causes.[2]
Yea but we live in the same house and I only got dragged here to settle some arguments with you as you could not understand that I did not believe what you were saying,your only awnser when questioned being "but its true" or "you don't understand because your narrow-minded" and you have given absolutly no reason for me to think otherwise.you're not my preacher thank God. You are not me therefore cannot truly know me.
“ Originally Posted by Cellar_Door
Meaningless after meaningless after misunderstood words... ”
P/MOAN..Then save yourself the effort and don't reply to my posts. You obviously have no memory of an afterlife so I don;t see how you can contribute accept to put a negative spin on it.
You want proof look up your arse where you will find your own truth.
So your just guessing what another's belief is,I.E. an Atheist does not believe in God so he doesn't believe in anything........thats plain ignorance.
So you would kill anything thats does not fit into your idealment of harmony...which is nothing more than a disharmonious action in itself
No it's a strong belief I have in the afterlife. I am not professing that others should take the same measures.Well when you deny the possability of any type of mistake on your part and threaten to harm yourself to prove yourself right....and kill those that are not on the same cloud of thought as you that is not enlightenment that is confusion.............you claim enlightenment yet claim frustration to the point of suicide.........and you think thats enlightenment.
For someone who claims to know so much about before the big bang and the afterlife you have given nothing apart from "It happened like that because I said it did,I proved it to myself,through lifetimes of knowlege etc" and when questioned you go on a tangent piling intelligent words together which have no or very little meaning to the actual questions asked.
I'm sorry mate but your claims on the afterlife are backed by nothing other than trusting thought you had as a child....unless you can put some logical step by step explanatory reasoning as to how you got to these belief's then I can only see it as a form of what I posted earlier.........
Yea but we live in the same house and I only got dragged here to settle some arguments with you as you could not understand that I did not believe what you were saying,your only awnser when questioned being "but its true" or "you don't understand because your narrow-minded" and you have given absolutly no reason for me to think otherwise.
And as you have avoided CELLAR_DOORS question about the beer and cat,and avoided C_D'S point when he quoted you and said you gave 2 different anwser's on the same page, I think it's because you are narrow-minded to anything apart from you own belief which you don't base on fact or proof and have the cheek to pity those that base their belief's on factual evidence when it should be the other way round,those with belief based on fact (able to show how they got to their belief), should pity those who base their belief's on hope(unable to explain or show)
I don't get what you mean by this either...
Q...C_D..Where do you draw this line of unproven reality, Pharoahmoan?
A...P/MOAN..Belief has led me to further insights into the macrocosm and its interconnectedness with our world, our species and our minds...