Taliban flee battle using children as shields: NATO

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15ofthe19 said:
Congratulations on posting three more links that are five years old, and yet again, failing to say anything.

Do you have to use google to find out what you think about everything?
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I'm a poor writer, a result of my piss poor Indian education. Rather than say the wrong thing I prefer to quote my sources.

PS you didn't have to click on the links, seeing as you already know everything my few words should have explained all. btw, how old is the war in Afghanistan?
 
samcdkey said:
I'm a poor writer, a result of my piss poor Indian education. Rather than say the wrong thing I prefer to quote my sources.

PS you didn't have to click on the links, seeing as you already know everything my few words should have explained all. btw, how old is the war in Afghanistan?
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Well, certainly, thanks for stopping by the booth and playing. I guess I shouldn't complain. At least you're not tiassa.
 
15ofthe19 said:
Well, certainly, thanks for stopping by the booth and playing. I guess I shouldn't complain. At least you're not tiassa.
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You didn't tell me how long the present war in Afghanistan is.

And I like tiassa.
 
I think the first U.S. boots were on the ground sometime in late Sept. of 2001. It's not entirely clear, because not all of that info has been released, but it's safe to say that by October 2001, the war was on. Why?
 
15ofthe19 said:
I think the first U.S. boots were on the ground sometime in late Sept. of 2001. It's not entirely clear, because not all of that info has been released, but it's safe to say that by October 2001, the war was on. Why?
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That its interesting that the consultant for Unocal who had also
In 1997 (Khalilzad) conducted risk assessments for Unocal on their proposed 1,500-kilometre pipeline project to transport natural gas from Turkmenistan to Pakistan through Afghanistan while he was a consultant with Cambridge Energy Research Associates.
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was appointed US envoy in Afghanistan in Jan 2002 and that Afghanistan suddenly planned a pipeline from Turkmenistan to Pakistan in May 2002.

What do you think?
 
Know whats even more interesting?
02/04/2007

Iran has wrested the opportunity from Afghanistan by nearing an accord with Pakistan and India on a seven billion dollars gas pipeline project.

The opportunity for Afghanistan was in the shape of the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan gas pipeline but it was snatched by Iran as the three countries have agreed in principle to give implement the multi-billion gast project.

Earlier, officials of the three countries had held nine meetings to reach an accord on the gas pipeline from the Central Asian state via Afghanistan to Pakistan.

The US will be dismayed as its oil and gas company UNOCAL efforts to pass gas pipeline from Turkmenistan via Afghanistan to Pakistan had been delayed because India and Pakistan have opted sign an accord with Iran, analysts say.
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Well well, what do you know?
http://www.e-ariana.com/ariana/eariana.nsf/allArticles/A1316D8491C475FC872572780039B826?OpenDocument
 
SamCDKey:

I am equally saddened and disappointed in your lack of comprehension. I am not however surprised, since you appear to only see that which you wish to. I put all terrorists in the same basket, regardless of whether they are state sanctioned or independent. However I don't trust the "news" sources seeing as I have become personally acquainted with the white washing and selective memory of US media.
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Pray tell which news sources do you find valid?

And you seemingly do not put "terrorists in the same basket", as your focus is -entirely- on the US. Look over this thread. Have you said -one- bad thing about the Taliban? Have you cried foul on ANY of their actions? In fact, when is the last time you've outwardly said "wow, Islamic terrorists are HORRIBLE and completely unacceptable"?

Feel free to critique the US. Not a problem at all. But I do believe you have a serious problem if you are not willing to join your critique with one of Islamic terror.

And the only people I feel sorry for in this mess are the civilians who asked neither for the Taliban to be trained and released in their midst nor the NATO aggression they face on a daily basis.
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Nato aggression? SHould not Nato pursue the Taliban?
 
Prince_James said:
SamCDKey:



Pray tell which news sources do you find valid?

And you seemingly do not put "terrorists in the same basket", as your focus is -entirely- on the US. Look over this thread. Have you said -one- bad thing about the Taliban? Have you cried foul on ANY of their actions? In fact, when is the last time you've outwardly said "wow, Islamic terrorists are HORRIBLE and completely unacceptable"?

Feel free to critique the US. Not a problem at all. But I do believe you have a serious problem if you are not willing to join your critique with one of Islamic terror.



Nato aggression? SHould not Nato pursue the Taliban?
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I think the Taliban are dipshits. Pursue them all you want, but not at the expense of civilians. If there were terrorists hiding in the US would NATO bomb the cities?
 
Sam, 2002 called, and they want their internets back.

Seriously, do you have some sort of special internet connection that only allows you to surf for links from five years ago?

You know they were talking about that same pipeline in 1979, right? There was this whole SOVIETS INVADE AFGHANISTAN thing you might want to bone up on.
 
15ofthe19 said:
Sam, 2002 called, and they want their internets back.

Seriously, do you have some sort of special internet connection that only allows you to surf for links from five years ago?

You know they were talking about that same pipeline in 1979, right? There was this whole SOVIETS INVADE AFGHANISTAN thing you might want to bone up on.
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Well that pipeline is no longer being built, so I guess the easiest thing now is to go through Iran's pipelines seeing as its the second largest producer of natural gas in the world.
 
Yes, that's what I'm doing. Burying my head.

I started this thread. I've offered several points about the topic.

Just exactly what, if anything, have you said in this thread?

You and spuriousmonkey should have a child together. Then the child could hold it's breathe until it died of suffocation, just to make a point. A point that no one would ever know, but who cares about that?
 
15ofthe19 said:
Yes, that's what I'm doing. Burying my head.

I started this thread. I've offered several points about the topic.

Just exactly what, if anything, have you said in this thread?

You and spuriousmonkey should have a child together. Then the child could hold it's breathe until it died of suffocation, just to make a point. A point that no one would ever know, but who cares about that?
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I'm looking at large scale use of civilians as shields for political purposes through propagation and support of violent conflict. What, you don't like to broaden your horizons?
 
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I think the Taliban are dipshits. Pursue them all you want, but not at the expense of civilians. If there were terrorists hiding in the US would NATO bomb the cities?
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The terrorist are the ones doing things at the expense of the people, the are the ones who not only kill innocent people all by them selves but they do their business in and among the innocent people, so pray tell your solution in dealing with the terrorist? no matter what we do leave them alone or pursue them people will die, but in pursuing the terrorist at some point the killing will come to a end, if we don't pursue the killing goes on forever.

ps: yes they would if we coundn't take care of the problem.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
samcdkey



The terrorist are the ones doing things at the expense of the people, the are the ones who not only kill innocent people all by them selves but they do their business in and among the innocent people, so pray tell your solution in dealing with the terrorist? no matter what we do leave them alone or pursue them people will die, but in pursuing the terrorist at some point the killing will come to a end, if we don't pursue the killing goes on forever.
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Unless the Taliban are green in color with TALIBAN stamped on their foreheads, I fail to see how anyone can tell them apart from the civilians.
 
When someone is shooting at you, you would assume that they are the enemy, and if you developed intell that the terrorist are meeting at a specific village and have identified the house or tent that they are meeting in you can bomb it, and then have them claim that it was only a wedding party and that the brutal NATO soldiers are terrorist them selves, or is that the Americans? I thought you wanted NATO involved, wasn't that one of your earlier complaints against the U.S. in Iraq that we didn't follow NATO and do things their way, so again you go with the moral relativism.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
When someone is shooting at you, you would assume that they are the enemy, and if you developed intell that the terrorist are meeting at a specific village and have identified the house or tent that they are meeting in you can bomb it, and then have them claim that it was only a wedding party and that the brutal NATO soldiers are terrorist them selves, or is that the Americans? I thought you wanted NATO involved, wasn't that one of your earlier complaints against the U.S. in Iraq that we didn't follow NATO and do things their way, so again you go with the moral relativism.
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I'm guessing you don't know much about Afghanis or Pashtuns. They dislike strangers and have a history of aggression, even against each other. Anyway, anyone is likely to shoot at soldiers famous for indiscriminate slaughter, even you, if they are in the vicinity of your home and family, belong to an alien culture and speak an alien language.
 
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