Then what does that do to an arrogant bitch like you?
Spanking Lowers IQ Points
- Thread starter Orleander
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If this is how you react to adults who disagree with you, I wonder how you would react to a disobedient child.
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you have to get vicious and turn into a bully.
Really, I wanted to bring up an intelligent point by pointing out the possibility that using a paddle or some other object besides the hand could make a spanking less stressful to the child, but you, just because you don't want to hear any views besides your own, chose to dismiss the idea, and why? Because you can't see how my experience with animals helps me understand human psychology.
I don't think you're really ignorant enough that you don't understand the similarities between animal behavior and human behavior. I think you're just a nasty bitch, and you wanted to have some excuse for dismissing anything I said. Fuck you.
I don't think you're really ignorant enough that you don't understand the similarities between animal behavior and human behavior. I think you're just a nasty bitch, and you wanted to have some excuse for dismissing anything I said. Fuck you.
assaulting a child with a weapon is less stressful than using your hand??
LOL OK, now I know your just pulling my leg.Really, Orleander, what makes you so machiavellian that you are defending (Q), who bashes on other people's religious beliefs out of meaness, just because (Q)'s views bear a superficial similarity to your own?
what does Q have to do with it??? :bugeye: I have always and forever been against assaulting children.
So let's say we used a rolled-up newspaper:
Dog handlers say that part of the reason that you should use a rolled-up newspaper, not your hand, is the fact that a rolled-up newspaper makes a louder, more distinctive sound when it strikes. They also recommend it because it causes less potential harm to the animal, physically or emotionally, than a bare hand.
Yes. A weapon. Sure.
That's what got me on my current tirade.
Now, I think that you are being highly dishonest in attempting to conflate spanking with assault. Shame on you.
You shouldn't be so down on yourself. I think you're relevant, even though you are a bitch.
I think you're just trying to exclude me from the discussion because you're not used to people who can see through your cloud of bullshit.
:bugeye: I have no idea what any of this has to do with spanking lowering IQ points.
Good! Now we are back to the central topic!
Now, Orle, both you and myself are in agreement in considering this information to be valid and in line with other studies that have found similar results. We both disagree with corporal punishment. Here are the points where we disagree.
1) You believe that it is acceptable to oppose corporal punishment by demonizing and dehumanizing parents who continue to use it. You believe that it is acceptable to conflate it with "assault," and you have also begun describing the instruments used in this form of punishment as "weapons." By doing so, you are hoping create a very negative image of corporal punishment. I, on the other hand, am the sort of person who places a high value on honesty, so I think that it is really fucked-up that you are using so much bullshit to get your way.
2) You also believe that the only acceptable method of getting parents to change their approach to child-rearing is to subject them to legal penalties, such as arrest and imprisonment. I think that this is problematical for a number of reasons. For one thing, many parents still hold the belief that corporal punishment is a necessary, healthy part of child-rearing. It would be more effective to introduce the idea that it this is not the case through the education system. Although education is a slow process, it is also very effective.
Another problem with your approach to this issue is the fact that many Christians hold the belief that their religious proverbs recommend corporal punishment. Putting people under arrest for using corporal punishment could result in igniting a political controversy that we do not want.
It would be more effective and less controversial to introduce these ideas through the education system before implementing other policies. Unless, of course, what you really want to do is stir up a shitstorm.
and you need to take a chill pill...or maybe a time out.
we would have no problem staying on topic if dog obedience training wasn't brought up. duh
Yes, it's that stuff you are full of.
I call it sexual stimulation, but go on.
It looks more like fetish gear to me, but go on.
Yup! In another context, it is foreplay. Context really does seem magical, doesn't it?
For centuries, scientists have been using animal models to help them understand human behavior and psychology. Now, just because you said so, we have decided that hundreds of years' worth of scientific research, using animal models, is no longer valid. We have discarded all theories that we have arrived at using the assistance of animal models. We understand now that you know more about human behavior than almost every psychotherapist since the dawn of behaviorism.
Who knew that mere arrogance could transform you, an incredibly shallow human being who lacks any understanding at all for context, into an incredible genius who has suddenly transformed the entire world of behavioral psychology! That's some pretty magical stuff you've got there.
Orleander, if I were to run an electrical shock through your chest, am I...
1) saving your life,
2) indulging you in some really kinky foreplay, or
3) physically torturing you?
Context, context, context. You are trying to get your way by ignoring context, and you are doing it deliberately.
1) saving your life,
2) indulging you in some really kinky foreplay, or
3) physically torturing you?
Context, context, context. You are trying to get your way by ignoring context, and you are doing it deliberately.
????
I hope I'm misunderstanding this. You find it sexually stimulating to assault a child?
I can't understand it either, Orleander makes little more sense then a 5 yr old.
Maybe it is a good thing she didn't spank her kids since she can't tell the difference between a quick spank on the butt and all out beating.
What about 2 Siblings play fighting and wrestling on the floor that gets a bit out of hand. Should one run to mommy and tell her that his brother has just ASSAULTED him?
Ummmm no you are shallow because you can't comprehend what anybody is saying and you are the one standing there in the CROWN calling yourself the Queen of the World ... :crazy: LMAO
Orle, you really are full of shit.