Spanking Lowers IQ Points

John99 said:
this isnt about members hitting their kids.

i dont think you have kids so you are creating these scenarios in your head where people just want to hit their kids for the hell of it. i can understand why a parent may feel that a spank on the behind is warranted. sometimes for their own protection.
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Well i emagine the reasons vary an we can quibble as to why parents hit ther kids... but goin by the spankers in this thred... id guess that ignerence is the mane culprit.!!!

If you had the choise between hittin you'r child or never hittin you'r child but woud get this sam result ether way... ie... an obedient child... woud you choose to hit them or not to hit them... keepin in mind if you dont hit 'em it will take mor time an effort on you'r part to interact mor wit you'r child.???
 
cluelusshusbund said:
Well i ant been keepin notes on what youv'e said... but i clearly disagreed wit you'r las post to me... an rather than respond to my criticism by defendin what you said... you choose to call me clueless... mayb you realize what you said ant defensible so you'r jus blowin smoke... eh :shrug:
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Okay, so I shouldn't have called you "clueless." You are really one to talk, though, dude. You were asking whether I was "kin to Dick Cheney." If it comes down to you and me trading insults, rest assured that my nasty rating can go ten times higher than yours, so how about we knock it off?

I have stated already that I find spanking to be crude, uncouth and barbaric. I am not going to tell a parent how to raise their own kids, but I personally find it offensive. I would really love to have an enlightened discussion with guys like Randwolf, here, on this very subject. However, the priority right now is clarifying that contact methods of discipline are not in the same category as abuse or assault.

Now, I was trying to explain to you the idea that what authorities recognize as "abuse" by parents is not in the same league as "spanking." I was trying to explain the idea that these concepts are stratospherically different from each other. What we define as "abuse" is very context-sensitive. Am I getting through to you at all?
 
NMSquirrel said:
its not 'hitting' its discipline,and you dont have to hurt them..
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It's very disturbing to see people try and justify their violent tendencies. Good psychiatric help will assist you with this problem, squirrel.
 
NMSquirrel said:
keep in mind just because you would not spank,doesnt make it wrong for us to spank..

it is a tool..used properly it is can be a good thing..

i would only ask you not to associate spanking with hitting or abusing as they are different..

we dont need anymore laws...

its like that cross in the desert to commemorate soldiers who died, someone got offended at it and made them box it
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And, you call yourself a morally-upstanding Christian? What a fucking joke.
 
(Q) said:
It's very disturbing to see people try and justify their violent tendencies.
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So now you are bashing on people who have aggressive impulses. Great. There go some perfectly decent people I happen to know. As troublesome as their impulses can be, I don't hold a grudge against them for it.

On the other hand, I do have a problem with people who are inclined to dictate to others how they live their lives when it's none of their business. Look, I'm not super-keen on corporal punishment, but it would have to clearly fall inside the scope of abuse for me to open my beak. Having experienced abuse and seen abuse, I know the difference, and I think I know more about the subject than you do.

You see, now the subject of discussion is no longer parents who spank their kids. Let it rest, it's distasteful. Now the focus is on YOU. Stand up, and take a bow because you are on camera now. What motivates people like you to dictate to parents how they raise their children? Were you born with a piece of your brain missing, or are you just really arrogant? Perhaps you should donate your body to science, so maybe we can figure out how to stop there from being more people like you.

Good psychiatric help will assist you with this problem, squirrel.
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You are not Squirrel's fucking psychologist. You are just a very arrogant person, whatever your fucking profession is, and you are suffering from some god complex where you can't see that you're in the wrong.

In the unlikely event that squirrel wants your psychiatric advice, he/she will ask you for it. I don't care what authority you are giving it on. It's just as much of an insult as if I told you that you are an arrogant, sanctimonious, brainless piece of shit. Squirrel is not calling you an arrogant, sanctimonious, brainless piece of shit, so knock it off.
 
Alien Cockroach said:
it would have to clearly fall inside the scope of abuse for me to open my beak. Having experienced abuse and seen abuse, I know the difference, and I think I know more about the subject than you do.
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It does, and no you don't.


You are not Squirrel's fucking psychologist.
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But, he does need one.

You are just a very arrogant person, whatever your fucking profession is, and you are suffering from some god complex where you can't see that you're in the wrong.
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Oh yes, I'm wrong, along with boatloads of people and documentation that clearly demonstrates otherwise.

Squirrel is not calling you an arrogant, sanctimonious, brainless piece of shit, so knock it off.
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And, neither was I. So, put up or shut up.
 
Alien Cockroach said:
I didn't say that you were. You talking shit about people's religious beliefs reflects badly on ME.
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What shit? If there's anything you wish to argue about cults, feel free. If you don't understand that they are one of worst concepts to ever plague mankind, you need to educate yourself. If you think people should have the right to follow these cults, then you are sadly mistaken.
 
(Q) said:
It does,
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No, it doesn't

no you don't.
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Yes, I do.

Now we can both be contrary. How lovely.

Oh yes, I'm wrong, along with boatloads of people and documentation that clearly demonstrates otherwise.
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So now you have documentation showing that it's okay to dictate people's lives to them. You are a fucking bully.

So, put up or shut up.
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Put what up, your Contrariness? Put a rubber dick up your nose?
 
What makes me different from you, Q, is that I think people can be convinced to find alternatives to corporal punishment without the need for legal penalties hanging over their heads. Unlike you, I don't think people have to be bullied to figure out the right thing to do. That's all that makes me different from you on this.
 
Alien Cockroach said:
So now you are bashing on people who have aggressive impulses. ....
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are you freakin kidding me?!!! This thread is spanked children having lower IQs. About how some parents assault their toddlers and older children and choose to call it 'spanking' or 'swatting'. AGGRESSIVE IMPULSES should have no place in child rearing. :mad:
 
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