Somone who knows God.!!!

spidergoat said:
If no one is innocent, then I can kill them with impunity. If no one is innocent, then Jesus was rightfully punished for his crimes.
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you're not innocent either, and you're no judge.

jesus wasn't punished for crimes. :confused: wtf translation are you reading?
 
Jesus broke the law, why do you think he was crucified? According to you, no one is innocent anyway, even little babies, so God can kill them and not be evil because he is using this threat somehow to encourage "communion" with him, or something.
 
Origionaly posted by Lori
it seems to me that god wants us to understand why the law is what it is. it would be impossible to understand the consequence of transgression without experiencing it. don't you think? and i think we make a choice based on that experience as to whether or not we would like to commune with god.

if we're willing to live without sin, then god will make a way for us to do that.
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oK... now that i know you'r beleifs include reincarnaton it all makes mor sinse.!!!

Do you understan why the law is what it is... an have you been willin to live wit-out sin.???

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Well that may not be a fare queston... i emagine its easier to preech you'r beleifs than to actualy live by 'em.!!!
 
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cluelusshusbund said:
Wow... you sounded like a religious Guru... do you know Jesus.???
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LOl, is that a compliment or an insult ;)? No, I don't know Jesus, but I think he would have been pretty interesting to know. Maybe we would have been friends and sat down and drank some wine and mused over life and religious ideologies :D
 
jessiej920 said:
LOl, is that a compliment or an insult ;)? No, I don't know Jesus, but I think he would have been pretty interesting to know. Maybe we would have been friends and sat down and drank some wine and mused over life and religious ideologies :D
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I want to drink with Jesus as well. I think we should all get together this friday and get a bottle of pinot noir and chat.
 
jessiej920 said:
No, I don't know Jesus, but I think he would have been pretty interesting to know.
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O Lordy i reckin so.!!!

Maybe we would have been friends and sat down and drank some wine and mused over life and religious ideologies :D
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If he was the guy depicted in the Holey Bible as our "savior" an i was aroun at the time... i woud have drivin a 4th spike between his eyes deep into his woodin display frame an mayb then the monster coudnt have clawed out of his burial-hole a couple of days later :shrug:
 
takethewarhome said:
I want to drink with Jesus as well. I think we should all get together this friday and get a bottle of pinot noir and chat.
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I'm thinking Jesus would be more the Merlot type of guy...but sure, how does eight o'clock sound? Your place or mine? Oh yeah...who's bringing Jesus? :D
 
cluelusshusbund said:
O Lordy i reckin so.!!!



If he was the guy depicted in the Holey Bible as our "savior" an i was aroun at the time... i woud have drivin a 4th spike between his eyes deep into his woodin display frame an mayb then the monster coudnt have clawed out of his burial-hole a couple of days later :shrug:
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Maybe Jesus was really a vampire :eek: That would be bad-ass.
 
cluelusshusbund said:
oK... now that i know you'r beleifs include reincarnaton it all makes mor sinse.!!!

Do you understan why the law is what it is... an have you been willin to live wit-out sin.???

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Well that may not be a fare queston... i emagine its easier to preech you'r beleifs than to actualy live by 'em.!!!
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I am most certainly willing, shit, I am dying to live without sin. But until my blood is cleansed, I'm stuck with it.

But even in sin, if you allow it, god can teach, develop, and change you. Knowing god and interacting with it can give you a very different perspective that permeates everything you do and think.

God can take a very imperfect person like me and make a perfect purpose and life for them even in their imperfection.

Sin doesn't thwart god. God just works around it.
 
Lori_7 said:
I am most certainly willing, shit, I am dying to live without sin. But until my blood is cleansed, I'm stuck with it.

But even in sin, if you allow it, god can teach, develop, and change you. Knowing god and interacting with it can give you a very different perspective that permeates everything you do and think.

God can take a very imperfect person like me and make a perfect purpose and life for them even in their imperfection.

Sin doesn't thwart god. God just works around it.
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Who or what establishes what sins are in your belief ?
 
Enmos said:
I don't think the Romans thought they were being hypocrites.
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Well then the romans were wrong. Just like the old atheist scapegoat, the religious hypocrites are much less intimidating than those who know god.
 
Lori_7 said:
Sin isn't just an isolated act. Its a condition. A genetic one that hinders communion.
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How can your genetic code be a sin ? A sin is a deliberate violation is, usually, some religious principle.
You can't blame people for their DNA.
 
Lori_7 said:
Well then the romans were wrong. Just like the old atheist scapegoat, the religious hypocrites are much less intimidating than those who know god.
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Well, that's irrelevant. The point is that they might not have known that they were wrong.
Jesus was challenging the authorities, so he got what he asked for.. Besides, wasn't that Gods plan all along anyway?
 
Enmos said:
How can your genetic code be a sin ? A sin is a deliberate violation is, usually, some religious principle.
You can't blame people for their DNA.
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Sin is not just an act. Its a physical condition, just like being born blind or with any other physical handicap.

Its not about blame, its about a realization that humanity is seriously and inherently fucked up.
 
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