I concur.
Somone who knows God.!!!
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I concur.
Who created you then ?.
Isn't your body a very complex thing ?.
How was it formed and found ?.
Just by accident......??!!!......:shrug:....!.
Your a grad student and you're asking this? Get your head out of a book and take a look around! You live in hell right now motherfucker! And if you don't see that now you won't ever see it, no matter how bad it gets. Hell is a consequence of sin. Duh. Its a voluntary condition for those who want their sin instead of communion with god and each other. Grad student.
What does that have to do with...? I'm sure you know as much about biology as I do. ??
I thought hell would be a place for nothing but suffering. Our world contains a mixture of good and bad, and we have a degree of power to shape things as we desire.
And if you don't see that now you won't ever see it, no matter how bad it gets. Hell is a consequence of sin. Duh. Its a voluntary condition for those who want their sin instead of communion with god and each other. Grad student.
I'm a sinner unless I believe every single person's wild-eyed claims about God(s)? So if I go to the grave a resolute skeptic, do I deserve infinity years of torture, or do you have some other conception of hell?
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What is the purpos of hell.???
So our lovin fathers plan was... that we woud all be borned into a Hell on earf... an the brave people who "can-see" get to go to heaven when they dye... but do the rest of us jus stay dead when we dye.???
Yes ive herd that befor from a Pennycost lady i used to work wit... i thank she was so miserable from tryin to live up to the standard she juged others by... that she had created her own personal hell on earf an was anxious to dye so she coud go to heaven {get releif from her beleifs}.!!!
God beat the fear of "what" out of you... an what do you mean by "beat".???
Well... from the scientific viewpont... our pane is an has been a natural part of evoluton... from a religious viewpont... the cause of all pane is God.!!!
So in the mean time... do you continue to sin... an if so... why... an what will keep you from sinin in heaven.???
What is the purpos of hell.???
So our lovin fathers plan was... that we woud all be borned into a Hell on earf... an the brave people who "can-see" get to go to heaven when they dye... but do the rest of us jus stay dead when we dye.???
Yes ive herd that befor from a Pennycost lady i used to work wit... i thank she was so miserable from tryin to live up to the standard she juged others by... that she had created her own personal hell on earf an was anxious to dye so she coud go to heaven {get releif from her beleifs}.!!!
God beat the fear of "what" out of you... an what do you mean by "beat".???
Well... from the scientific viewpont... our pane is an has been a natural part of evoluton... from a religious viewpont... the cause of all pane is God.!!!
So in the mean time... do you continue to sin... an if so... why... an what will keep you from sinin in heaven.???
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Not by accident, by biological patterns and evolution. It's been proven, yet people seem to believe the fact that we weren't 'created' cheapens their existence somehow. And for many, I think the idea infuriates them.
People need god, even though he's not there.
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." Dr. Carl Sagan.
This was posted in a thread about favorite quotes today. Made me think of this thread's hullabaloo.
This was posted in a thread about favorite quotes today. Made me think of this thread's hullabaloo.
There is no such thing as a 'real' God anymore then there is a 'right' God. So I would say no, God is not the father of Jesus, but I would also say yes, God is in everything and everything is in God so why couldn't God be a father?
Hell isn't a 'real' place anymore then God is a 'real' God. Hell is a human concept formed out of fear, that exists only when we believe in it so powerfully that we create it. We manifest our own Hell's so I would have to say no, believing in Jesus will not save you, but I would also say yes, the belief that the belief in Jesus will save you is powerful.
'God' is in the world and the world is in 'God'. Is the world fair and just? It is both.
Humans are flawed so the 'God' they created is therefore flawed as well.
Only if we imagine so.
There is no 'true' good or evil, the terms are ambiguous and are all too human. Everything is inevitable.
Which 'God'?
saved from what and in what way saved?
There is no more 'real' heaven then there is 'real' hell. I'm pretty sure being from Afghanistan doesn't change that.
Can they go to heaven if they've never imagined it existed?
'God' does not love unless we imgaine 'god' does.
Humans created 'God' and 'God' is within us and we are within 'God' so really we are 'God' and 'God' is us.
The purpose exists only in our minds.
Why do humans allow children to be raped by full-grown adults?
I neither like nor dislike 'God'. 'God' just is.
Lol. Were my answers annoying or what?
Your a grad student and you're asking this? Get your head out of a book and take a look around! You live in hell right now motherfucker! And if you don't see that now you won't ever see it, no matter how bad it gets. Hell is a consequence of sin. Duh. Its a voluntary condition for those who want their sin instead of communion with god and each other. Grad student.
That's a bunch of nonsense. Look around the world, good people suffer just as much as evil people, tsunamis kill tens of thousands, hurricanes blow down churches and kill believers, disease attacks all with no discrimination...
not only him but all living entities
considering the social climate he was in when he made the statement, I would say so.
yes
independence, once created, must have recourse to error
yes
he creates a world that facilitates material desire, but that's merely to fulfill a requirement for our independence (Can you think of alternative for a living entity who, by independent will, has the desire to be - apparently - independent from god?)
I'll pass on that one
assuming that the missionary introduces a higher spiritual standard of practice, I would say so.
If bodily designation isn't a determining qualification, I doubt that geographical region is either
karma has no requirement to be instantly resolved in even a thousand lifetimes, what to speak of one
sure
Inasmuch as you are certain that you are not your own father
Its not so much eternal but that a little time there feels like a long long long time.
Its purpose is to relinquish an individual of heavy back logs of karma over relatively quick periods of time.
If we were seriously interested in existing in a world in which god plays a central role in all things, we wouldn't even have arrived here.
Thinking like this is a total waste of time (I mean its not likely that the universe is ever going to bend over backwards to cater to our whim).
Being proactive (even for an atheist) is to think more along the lines of "Do I like myself the way I am, or would I like to make some changes"
Were my answers annoying or what?
Wow... you sounded like a religious Guru... do you know Jesus.???
Thanks... but Lori knows God... whare do you get you'r made-up informaton.???
hi buds
how are you ? hope you are fine
i saw this topic and i believe that is interested
according to my religion(Islam ) my god is Allah
really i hope to answer for your questions but my english laguage is not perfect actually , i can not understand them exactly , sorry :\
so if you would like from me to comment please make your questions clear to get it easily
my regards
how are you ? hope you are fine
i saw this topic and i believe that is interested
according to my religion(Islam ) my god is Allah
really i hope to answer for your questions but my english laguage is not perfect actually , i can not understand them exactly , sorry :\
so if you would like from me to comment please make your questions clear to get it easily
my regards
Everyone is born with a birth defect that hinders communion with god and everyone suffers from everyones defect.
Its not like sin is one isolated act with one isolated consequence. Its a condition, the effects of which are pandemic and cumulative.
So how did you over-com the birf defect {God gave to us}.???
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So... If God is almighty and is the single-handed uncontested and absolute ruler and creater of the universe and everything in it, this "birth defect" was and is a part of his design, correct?
And don't you dare say no, because if you believe in God and his totality [like you say or like to think you do], you know the folly of trying to make up some "divine justification" for the truth that your faith and reasoning are fundementally flawed in this.
See... now you're just making shit up.
hi buds
how are you ? hope you are fine
i saw this topic and i believe that is interested
according to my religion(Islam ) my god is Allah
really i hope to answer for your questions but my english laguage is not perfect actually , i can not understand them exactly , sorry :\
so if you would like from me to comment please make your questions clear to get it easily
my regards
Welcome to the forums, fofo. Not sure if this is the right thread for you to discuss your faith, though. It's rather for people like Lori who think they have some special connection with the universe and its "creator", because their gut feelings are somehow better than everyone else's gut feelings, and everyone else's gut feelings are in turn superior to careful, consistent experimentation. In your islamic religion, I believe you would call people like Lori "false prophets" for falsely claiming to speak with "God", and you would look on such people with even greater disdain than you would upon the general skeptics who merely deny your religion.
they're not gut feelings, they're experiences. and yes, great advice...look upon anyone who has different experiences, and therefore different beliefs as you, with disdain. stellar advice.
of course it's part of the design. why wouldn't it be?
i didn't.