Musta,
Do you like being called a calvinist? Neither do I like be calling a calvinist.
Yes indeed, reasonable people believe the truth based on new evidence. What new evidence are you presenting regarding the bible ? None None None, might I say it again so you get the point: YOU HAVE PRESENTED NO NEW EVIDENCE REGARDING THE BIBLE It's just the same old worn out arguments that have been around for centuries. By the way, the number is two billion Christians, not a billion.
Some things in the bible are spiritually discerned. How can you expect to discern them when you have no spirit?
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Absolutely, the word of God is a two edge sword.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Good luck arguing with God. You have a soul but you don't have a spirit -- let us say you are "spiritually challenged" to put it in the modern vernacular, in which the english language itself is becoming a euphemism for everyone's shortcomings, excuses, and diluted truths. And regardless of how much you might feel good about yourself, you enter the argument without all the information. Neither do I have all the information, but I have more than you.
regarding the bible, and having it taken away you said:
And now you see christianity through the eyes of the devil, and that is not a good thing. He smiles when you say that, he hears the dinner bell ringing, and it makes him so hungry. "How much longer must I wait for the lost little baby chick to walk into my jaws," he says. God says, "please don't do it, I don't want to watch you die" and you say "I will, I will, I will, because I know what's best for me."
If you beleive the bible isn't true that really doesn't change your fate.
And how am I supposed to pronounce this new name I have been given, is "xian" pronounced like "Zion" which sounds jewish? So we continue to make a euphemism out of the english language, until it no longer describes anything.
regarding an answer you said:
You can't say God didn't try:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Yes, I did, and that was kind of you. Again, Jesus is the God I worship.
About your parents:
I apologize if I "smothered you with the bible."
Your personal statistics say you were born in 1986. Could you please make the correction? Well I see that you already have, thank you. If it was already 1976, please forgive me, I have a slight case of dyslexia. This also hurts my spelling.
dyslexia web page
I am an atheist reading your bible, so could not give a toss whether it's someone elses point of view, and as I said I've been there done that, and I get a good laugh out of it, never been roasted yet.
Do you like being called a calvinist? Neither do I like be calling a calvinist.
if a thing is wrong, and a billion people believe it 's true, it's still wrong. (in the 15th century, they still believed the world was flat, until a small band of people showed them the error in there ways.)
Yes indeed, reasonable people believe the truth based on new evidence. What new evidence are you presenting regarding the bible ? None None None, might I say it again so you get the point: YOU HAVE PRESENTED NO NEW EVIDENCE REGARDING THE BIBLE It's just the same old worn out arguments that have been around for centuries. By the way, the number is two billion Christians, not a billion.
Some things in the bible are spiritually discerned. How can you expect to discern them when you have no spirit?
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
as I said I have no excuse, and does'nt that cut both ways.
Absolutely, the word of God is a two edge sword.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Good luck arguing with God. You have a soul but you don't have a spirit -- let us say you are "spiritually challenged" to put it in the modern vernacular, in which the english language itself is becoming a euphemism for everyone's shortcomings, excuses, and diluted truths. And regardless of how much you might feel good about yourself, you enter the argument without all the information. Neither do I have all the information, but I have more than you.
regarding the bible, and having it taken away you said:
and that would be a good thing.
I dont need an excuse, the way I am has come from reading that bible, so I more than happy.
And now you see christianity through the eyes of the devil, and that is not a good thing. He smiles when you say that, he hears the dinner bell ringing, and it makes him so hungry. "How much longer must I wait for the lost little baby chick to walk into my jaws," he says. God says, "please don't do it, I don't want to watch you die" and you say "I will, I will, I will, because I know what's best for me."
whats to be accountable for, we dont believe any of that tripe.
If you beleive the bible isn't true that really doesn't change your fate.
I am not a bully, and can stick up for myself quite well, I dont have an army as you say of sidekicks, could you please name them.
people might be like minded, such as two xians having the same views, as I dont know you personally, I dont know anybody on this forum personally.
And how am I supposed to pronounce this new name I have been given, is "xian" pronounced like "Zion" which sounds jewish? So we continue to make a euphemism out of the english language, until it no longer describes anything.
regarding an answer you said:
if you could give me one I would be happy, to turn to god, unfortunately you hav'nt succeeded.
You can't say God didn't try:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
did you read what I said about, jesus earlier in the thread.
Yes, I did, and that was kind of you. Again, Jesus is the God I worship.
About your parents:
no they are the same age well just about, the arguement seems to be all on your side, as I dont feel I am arguing, I thought we were debating an issue.
thats just avatar I am dark haired, and 29 sir, your right about fiesty.
I apologize if I "smothered you with the bible."
Your personal statistics say you were born in 1986. Could you please make the correction? Well I see that you already have, thank you. If it was already 1976, please forgive me, I have a slight case of dyslexia. This also hurts my spelling.
dyslexia web page
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