I was the source. That's as "definitive" as it gets.
Yeah, you just made it up, which is what you. And it took you more than a week to make that admission. You referenced statistics for which you have no source. You have not done any primary research, so how can you be the source unless you just made-up those statistics? You have not referenced any resource which validates your assertions. After more than a week you cited some references and told me to do the calculations. And I pointed out your “source” data was inadequate because your “sources” don’t contain the data you need to support your assertions. Now you are back to” you are your source” (i.e. you made it up). You just made it up. You have no source. That is the bottom line here.
First, you refused to provide a source, then you provided 3 pseudo sources, and now you admit you have no source or primary research to support your assertions.
I found it perfectly adequate, for the purposes of the rough estimate I was making. I had the homicide rate, the black population estimated, a control on racial disparity in murder rates via incarceration percentages, the total lynchings and yearly breakdowns, from the linked sites. I pulled the percentage of KKK lynchings that were black men from memory (as well as one of the links), likewise a rough guess at the percentage of lynchings that were KKK, and included the error range from all of this in the discussion. I even cherrypicked the most challenging timeframe available - the year 1892, the peak lynching year also featuring one of the lowest homicide rates in a low population. What do you find lacking? Please be specific.
Well when you estimate, you tell people you are estimating. You make a very definitive assertion for which you had and still have absolutely no evidence. For example, none of the sources you referenced contained data on the race of the murder or the social affiliations of the murder. What you did was the equivalent of an octopus ink spray.
And if you have a minute, try addressing the actual point being made: that comparing police killing to ordinary homicide by simple head count is all but meaningless. Like KKK lynchings, police killings have completely different, and much greater, significance.
How is that even relevant? Who but you even mentioned comparing police killing to ordinary homicide rates? It wasn’t and hasn’t been an issue in this thread. This is yet another of your distractions.
My condolences. If you are actually curious, type the words "lead gray baltimore" into the search bar of your browser. That way you can avoid retyping your stupid, bs "questions" over and over and over, trying to make other people chase your sticks, and instead choose your own source from the dozens.
Well, actually, this discussion was about your assertion that Mr. Gray’s alleged lead poisoning was evidence of police racism and Mr. Gray’s lead poisoning had been discussed in this thread when in fact it had not been discussed – another one of those “dem” damn facts.
That, along with your repetition of the fact that some of the police involved were black, is why your claim to have seen no evidence of racism is not serious.
Well, that is part of it. The Baltimore police officer charged with Mr. Gray’s murder is black. But you should know now, there is much more to my argument. Like, a white member of Sciforums testified to how Baltimore police officers physically mistreated him during a medial crisis. So Baltimore police abuse and mistreatment of residents goes beyond just race. Black officers have been accused of abuse and whites as well as blacks have been abused by Baltimore police officers.
So you appear to have a very selective or a severely defective memory, because all of this has been repeated over and over for your edification.
Again: It's evidence of systematic, institutional, racism behind the lifelong abuse of Gray and everyone else who lives in that part of Baltimore; by the police, by the housing inspectors, by the courts, by the landlords, by the banks, by every agency of government and power center in society for as long as black people have predominately populated that part of town.
So the employment of black police officers is evidence of systematic institutional racism? And what did the Baltimore Police Department have to do with the housing choices made by Mr. Gray’s mother or with housing inspectors or banks? This is yet another attempt to obfuscate.
Being poor isn’t racist. There are many more poor whites than there are poor blacks, as has been endlessly pointed out to you. Issues like lead poisoning affect older people, like me, because we were exposed to lead paints and leaded gasoline fumes right up until the late 1980’s when lead was phased out of those products. Mr. Gray hadn’t even been born then. And the CDC has been lowering the lead tolerance levels. Lead levels that would have been considered safe are now considered unsafe because the CDC has changed the lead standards.
The issues you mentioned transcend race. While calling people names as you have repeatedly done, might make you feel better, it will not solve the problems the poor face.
If we are to get serious about this problem it is not enough to blame people and call people names. When the National Transportation Safety Board investigates accidents, they don’t stop with blaming people. They look at the reasons why people make the mistakes they make. There is a whole science behind it; it’s called human factors engineering. We need to understand why Baltimore Police made the decisions which lead to Mr. Gray’s demise. And I have mentioned a few of those factors. Only when we understand those factors can we begin to fix the problems which led to Mr. Gray’s death.
You were asked, how is Mr. Gray’s alleged lead poisoning evidence of police racism? You still haven’t answered that question. Grandiose demagoguery isn’t reason or a solution. It’s just grandiose demagoguery and an excuse. As much as you may not like it, everyone has some culpability here. Everyone has some accountability here. The Baltimore Police Department as I said from my very first post is culpable for Mr. Gray’s death. But you shouldn’t go off the deep end as you have done with all this nonsense.