Joe's entire post 315 is a waste of his time, but this one item has some thread relevance:
And so the significance of KKK lynchings far outweighs their number, illustrating the larger point: that not all killings are equally significant, even for reasonable people.
Police killings are far more significant than ordinary murders. They not only receive, but deserve, far more attention than ordinary murders. There is nothing wrong with that. Agreed?
A more comparable situation involving white people would be something like the French under German occupation in WWII: French women who refused on principle to mate with German men were not doing something shocking to you, surely?
The frequency with which Americans talk about racial matters as if each new specific situation were isolated, as if we were somehow assessing whether racism were a factor without considering the surrounding circumstances, history, or environment, is startling.
Well, by amazing good luck it seems to have been accurate, so moving on: It seems to be that everyone agrees that the KKK has never at its worst lynched more than about 10%, more or less, of the number of black men murdered by other black men for ordinary reasons, in the US.joe said:Yeah, you just made it up, which is what you. And it took you more than a week to make that admission.
And so the significance of KKK lynchings far outweighs their number, illustrating the larger point: that not all killings are equally significant, even for reasonable people.
Police killings are far more significant than ordinary murders. They not only receive, but deserve, far more attention than ordinary murders. There is nothing wrong with that. Agreed?
Nothing shocking there. You are aware of position black women have been put in, by hundreds of years of racial oppression? By "the same situation" you seem to mean a reporter's interview with white women in the US as it is - but that is not the same situation at all. To have the "same situation" you would need to invert the larger social context of bigotry as well.fraggle said:But one of the most shocking things I've ever encountered that bears on this issue was in the Washington Post about ten years ago. A reporter was interviewing a number of single black mothers and asking them why they were single. The answer they all gave was, "There aren't enough nice, stable black men available."
Imagine the same situation with the colors reversed.
A more comparable situation involving white people would be something like the French under German occupation in WWII: French women who refused on principle to mate with German men were not doing something shocking to you, surely?
The frequency with which Americans talk about racial matters as if each new specific situation were isolated, as if we were somehow assessing whether racism were a factor without considering the surrounding circumstances, history, or environment, is startling.