Sad milestone, American victims of Islamic terrorists reach 3,000!

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Nickelodeon said:
I recall a seige on Fallujah some time ago. Did that stop the insurgency? Or affect it in any way?
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Yes, it did have an effect. But liberal assholes and idiot politicians wouldn't let the US military continue a tactic that worked ....they want only tactics that don't work, so that our military has to work under almost impossible conditions. (Just like we had to do in Vietnam ...when something worked, we weren't allowed to continue it!)

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Baron Max said:
Yes, it did have an effect. But liberal assholes and idiot politicians wouldn't let the US military continue a tactic that worked ....they want only tactics that don't work, so that our military has to work under almost impossible conditions. (Just like we had to do in Vietnam ...when something worked, we weren't allowed to continue it!)

Baron Max
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Why do you think that is? Is it possibly because war is ultimately profitable?
 
Nickelodeon, no tactical intell, and from the info that I get from the guy's coming back is that there are WMD being found, and that Saddam sent the majority to Syria, don't worry they will turn up again to bite us in the ass.
 
Ragnarok said:
Why do you think that is? Is it possibly because war is ultimately profitable?
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I don't know ....but my guess is it's simply what we like to call "international politics". Which is, I think, an excuse used by some in order not to hurt the feelings of someone else, or some other nation/culture/people/etc. I.e., trying to be all things to all people at the same time. Stupid, but that's what it seems.

Baron Max
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Sam just heard that in 2006, the Iraqi's lost 16,976 casualties, and we have lost 3,000 troops since the beginning of the war, so who is taking the brunt of the casualties?
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So the US is "saving" Iraq by attacking the militia that is holding up the democratically elected government, is part of the biggest militia currently operating in Iraq (finishing ahead of Al Qaeda even) and is killing innocent civilians while targeting US troops. And all this a great thing which is part of the grand plan of the US. Which GWB is going to apparently change sometime when he gets around to figuring out what to do.

Hmm makes perfect sense.:eek:

btw, re: the Iraqi casualties- is the US doing body counts now?
 
Baron Max said:
I don't know ....but my guess is it's simply what we like to call "international politics". Which is, I think, an excuse used by some in order not to hurt the feelings of someone else, or some other nation/culture/people/etc. I.e., trying to be all things to all people at the same time. Stupid, but that's what it seems.

Baron Max
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OOOOH ok, so basically what Bush tried to do to win the election. Be for all sides at once, and have a lot of grey areas. Its no use trying to 'not hurt the feelings of other nations', I believe they already hate the USA. Yes, i agree stupid.
 
Which militia is holding up Iraq? how much was the taken in the hold up? old Muky, is angling to become the next Saddam, He isn't doing anything that is helping the Iraqi government.
 
Ragnarok, weather they hate us or don't, should not have any thing to do with our mission in Iraq, other countries opinion should have no bearing on the way operation of our troops are conducted, the conduct of our operations is our concern as it involve the lives of our troops.
 
samcdkey, Really? I'm starting to believe my grand pa, he said the biggest mistake in the 20th century was giving women the vote.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Ragnarok, weather they hate us or don't, should not have any thing to do with our mission in Iraq, other countries opinion should have no bearing on the way operation of our troops are conducted, the conduct of our operations is our concern as it involve the lives of our troops.
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Buffalo Roam said:
samcdkey, Really? I'm starting to believe my grand pa, he said the biggest mistake in the 20th century was giving women the vote.
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I'm not surprised. The US for all its talk on freedom has yet to produce a woman President, even after 200 years.

And one would assume that the opinion of people being "saved" would count, especially when simultaneously battling a war on "terror".:rolleyes:
 
samcdkey said:
I'm not surprised. The US for all its talk on freedom has yet to produce a woman President, even after 200 years.
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I'm sure they'll produce someone just as incompetent as the last few male presidents. She will be black, also, because everyone loves a pity party.
 
samcdkey said:
And one would assume that the opinion of people being "saved" would count, ...
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And just who are they, Sam? Can you tell us how to recognize them? How can we tell the difference between them?

I mean, you seem to know, so that's why I'm asking you ....the "One Who Sees All and Knows All" - SamCDKey!

Baron Max
 
Buffalo Roam said:
samcdkey, Really? I'm starting to believe my grand pa, he said the biggest mistake in the 20th century was giving women the vote.
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As I grow older, I'm coming to believe that myself. We should have kept women in the home where they belong, taking care of the home and raising the children properly. You can see the effects of women's rights in how the children have been raised and what they've become.

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
And just who are they, Sam? Can you tell us how to recognize them? How can we tell the difference between them?

I mean, you seem to know, so that's why I'm asking you ....the "One Who Sees All and Knows All" - SamCDKey!

Baron Max
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That is my question. How do you know? Who is an "insurgent"? Who is a civilian? Who is the US "saving"? From whom? How can they tell when the people have been saved? When do they know they have "won"? Who is the target, the enemy? Against whom is the US fighting in Iraq?
 
Samcdkey
And one would assume that the opinion of people being "saved" would count, especially when simultaneously battling a war on "terror".
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And what do you think that opinion is? From what I have read yes the Iraqi's want us to leave, but not until the country can stand on it's own, tell me what you think will happen if we leave? Peace? what do you want to bet, and what do you want to bet that the terrorist won't stop, and that they will follow us back to America and continue the Attack, that the attacks around the world will also continue and increase, do you want to bet?
 
Baron Max said:
As I grow older, I'm coming to believe that myself. We should have kept women in the home where they belong, taking care of the home and raising the children properly. You can see the effects of women's rights in how the children have been raised and what they've become.

Baron Max
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You could always move to Saudi Arabia. :D
The oil is (or was, a couple years back) just 70 halalas a liter.
 
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