So what, from where you stand, everything is driven by your religious zealotry. Your multiple fantasies range far and wide.
But, from where we stand, you're peeing into the wind.
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So what, from where you stand, everything is driven by your religious zealotry. Your multiple fantasies range far and wide.
But, from where we stand, you're peeing into the wind.
Sam is partially right at least. Universities in the West at least (no idea about anywhere else) were founded by the Catholic Church. Mind you, it was primarily to train clerks and scribes, but at the same time they didn't seem to have too much objection about rhetoric and philosophy, either. With the Church as the general guardian of knowledge during the Dark Ages, I don't think it can be said they were really in any confrontation with science and understanding until about the 16th century.
Now, by the same token, the vast array - or a goodly majority - of evolutionists are great proponents of education while being complete athiests. Some churches - Catholicism and (I think) Anglicanism - avow evolution; others (some Baptist and Mormon sects) don't. I don't think it's really possible to generalize very far in this, beyond some brute divisions in theism.
Now, by the same token, the vast array - or a goodly majority - of evolutionists are great proponents of education while being complete athiests. Some churches - Catholicism and (I think) Anglicanism - avow evolution; others (some Baptist and Mormon sects) don't. I don't think it's really possible to generalize very far in this, beyond some brute divisions in theism.
And lying has become the substitute for discussion?
I'm still waiting an apology on the establishment of Oxford by monks and friars.
:roflmao:
We're still waiting for apologies from the last 37K+ posts of lies.
As snakelord pointed out, not all dictionaries are stuck with that antequated definition.
Oh no not science! It's just a thought process (a how to think better contribution). You are correct that atheism doesn't preclude ideological beliefs; however, the average atheist doesn't hold any paranormal assertions to be true (a side-effect of a critical thought process).
Where I live, many of those educational institutions are not accredited. As far as hospitals go, given a choice between 'St. Mary's House of Prayer' and Stanford, I think I'll go with the latter (as many do).
You're finally getting it
. It's the non-acceptance of a particular assertion as being true and that's it. Oh no whatever shall we do! If theists don't kill them then eventually they will begin to normalize and you'll see more group identity.
As the author pointed out, its the definition from reputed dictionaries.
Uh please, are you telling me that UFOlogists do not include atheists?
No problem. Stanford University too was established by a Christian couple in memory of their child
You're finally getting it
not any particular assertion; merely atheos
More likely these socalled secular humanists will form a church to get in on the business of evangelism.
I am... I can't criticize medical breakthroughs from the 1930's as comfortably as you
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/articles/moniz/index.html
Irrelevent. There was a time, not that very long ago, when theism was a perfectly reasonable position.
Amusingly from 95 years ago. If you use that same reputable dictionary, but a modern day version, you find it includes both. I mean really, did you ever ask yourself why the article author would have used a 1913 version of a dictionary when a 2007 version is available? What am I asking, of course you didn't.
Oxford:
atheism Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a god.
disbelieve 1. trans. Not to believe or credit; to refuse credence to: a. a statement or (alleged) fact: To reject the truth or reality of.
Websters:
atheism n 1 a: disbelief in the existence of God or any other deity b: the doctrine that there is neither god nor any other deity
disbelief n: the act of disbelieving : mental refusal to accept (as a statement or proposition) as true
disbelieve vb vt : to hold not to be true or real : reject or withold belief in vi : to withold or reject belief
Websters revised
Atheist
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
2. Without God, neither accepting nor denying him.
Look, we can debate dictionaries all week long - it ultimately once again is of no consequence to anyone what you feel like calling them. When you think up another word let me know.
atheism Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a god.
disbelieve 1. trans. Not to believe or credit; to refuse credence to: a. a statement or (alleged) fact: To reject the truth or reality of.
Websters:
atheism n 1 a: disbelief in the existence of God or any other deity b: the doctrine that there is neither god nor any other deity
disbelief n: the act of disbelieving : mental refusal to accept (as a statement or proposition) as true
disbelieve vb vt : to hold not to be true or real : reject or withold belief in vi : to withold or reject belief
Websters revised
Atheist
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
2. Without God, neither accepting nor denying him.
Look, we can debate dictionaries all week long - it ultimately once again is of no consequence to anyone what you feel like calling them. When you think up another word let me know.
It's about time this futile argument was put to bed.
Whatever dictionary one consults is irrelevant. Atheist is from the Greek and simply means without god. Make of that what you will; a theist will seek to interpret it in what he ( Sam included ) regards as a bad light.As an atheist I find such definitions irrelevant.
My source is: Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon, Oxford, 1893
Whatever dictionary one consults is irrelevant. Atheist is from the Greek and simply means without god. Make of that what you will; a theist will seek to interpret it in what he ( Sam included ) regards as a bad light.As an atheist I find such definitions irrelevant.
My source is: Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon, Oxford, 1893
Yup thats what they said.
Thats half the word ie atheos equals without god.
-ism equals belief.
atheism = belief in "without god"
Well, if athiest is without God or gods, then theist is simply with God or gods or Myuu.
Ergo, if theism is a belief in God or gods or Myuu, then atheism is a belief (yeees. Yes it is. Stop that.) in no gods or God.
That's an orthogonal contrast, my friend. And we are nothing in this world if not orthogonal.
Best regards
Geoff
Ergo, if theism is a belief in God or gods or Myuu, then atheism is a belief (yeees. Yes it is. Stop that.) in no gods or God.
That's an orthogonal contrast, my friend. And we are nothing in this world if not orthogonal.
Best regards
Geoff
Wait, just checking..
So is it "belief in without god" as you espouse which doesn't even make sense or perhaps better stated as "without 'belief in' god", or even better "without god belief"?
Theism = god belief, atheism = without god belief.
Hey whatever. For the last time once you come up with another word let me know.