Magical Realist
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Wanting someone to be alive doesn't make 4 rescue workers suddenly hear a voice. Just doesn't happen..
Proof of the supernatural
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Wanting someone to be alive doesn't make 4 rescue workers suddenly hear a voice. Just doesn't happen..
I edited your post to fix the messed up quote tag (you had quotes around your post as well)
Yes, yes it does. In fact, there is an entire study of this phenomenon, and is a staple in several types of psychological evaluation:
http://www.education.com/science-fair/article/hear-what-they-want-to-hear/
http://www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
Thus, if they were expecting or hoping to hear someone cry for help, it would be almost EXPECTED that any otherwise indistinguishable noise would be heard as such.
Yes, yes it does. In fact, there is an entire study of this phenomenon, and is a staple in several types of psychological evaluation:
http://www.education.com/science-fair/article/hear-what-they-want-to-hear/
http://www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
Thus, if they were expecting or hoping to hear someone cry for help, it would be almost EXPECTED that any otherwise indistinguishable noise would be heard as such.
Is there a case of 5 different people experiencing Pareidolia at the same time?
Bells
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And ghostly voices are not ridiculous....
More plausible than ghostly voices from the dead.
They get their 5 minutes of fame, job done.
Dunno - I'll dig around and find out - I'm sure it is (after all, just look at how people tend to freak out about "The Unknown" when in groups out in the woods at night, etc)
Good luck with that. It has to be proven that it was pareidolia, and they all heard the same words.
And you still have to prove it really was a ghost.
Remember, just because something is unexplained that doesn't mean "woo" wins by default. You still need to prove it.
So yeah, good luck with that, too.
I never said it was a ghost, I even said it could be an alien. Good reading comprehension skills. I said it was unexplained, i.e. supernatural. But one thing's for sure, they heard a voice. What it is is the unexplained part.
It doesn't need to be proven to be considered a more rational explanation than "the supernatural".
A natural explanation trumps the supernatural every time with regard what should be considered a rational explanation.
Furthermore, it would only take one of them to think they heard words, and then for group psychology to get to work during their conversations for them all to end up genuinely convinced they heard the same thing, for such reasons as wanting to support each other, not wanting to appear left out of the group, desire to help etc.
Seth.lee713
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How's this for supernatural - I was born on a Friday the 13th, in May (5/13) - I weighed 5lbs 13oz - It was 3:55AM (3+5+5=13)
Remember how to find the average, or the mean, of a set of numbers? Add all the numbers then divide the sum by the number of digits added together... So, replacing the letters in my name with the numbers they are in the alaphabet and adding them up (SETH=19+5+20+8=52) ---- to find the average, I take 52/4, which = 13!
This is just a glimpse into what I've found. The rabbit hole goes deep. What do you think?
Remember how to find the average, or the mean, of a set of numbers? Add all the numbers then divide the sum by the number of digits added together... So, replacing the letters in my name with the numbers they are in the alaphabet and adding them up (SETH=19+5+20+8=52) ---- to find the average, I take 52/4, which = 13!
This is just a glimpse into what I've found. The rabbit hole goes deep. What do you think?
7 billion people in the world.
Assuming an annual birth-rate of 1% that means 70 million people born each year.
On average that is roughly 192,000 per day.
Per hour that is almost 8,000.
Per minute that is about 133.
That one of them is born weighing 5lb 13 oz is not unusual (that weight is considered within the boundary of normal).
As for the name, that's also not too unusual. In fact, if you do the same to my real first name and surname, it also equates to an average of 13 (I know you might not believe that, but it genuinely does).
However, had your name not added to 13 you wouldn't have mentioned it, or you would have probably come up with something else that does.
It's called selection bias.
So I'd put it down to coincidence. Nothing else.
Edit: actually the crude birth rate (births per 1,000 people) is currently around 20 - i.e. 2%, not the 1% I used.
So half as remarkable as I set out.
Assuming an annual birth-rate of 1% that means 70 million people born each year.
On average that is roughly 192,000 per day.
Per hour that is almost 8,000.
Per minute that is about 133.
That one of them is born weighing 5lb 13 oz is not unusual (that weight is considered within the boundary of normal).
As for the name, that's also not too unusual. In fact, if you do the same to my real first name and surname, it also equates to an average of 13 (I know you might not believe that, but it genuinely does).
However, had your name not added to 13 you wouldn't have mentioned it, or you would have probably come up with something else that does.
It's called selection bias.
So I'd put it down to coincidence. Nothing else.
Edit: actually the crude birth rate (births per 1,000 people) is currently around 20 - i.e. 2%, not the 1% I used.
So half as remarkable as I set out.
The marvelling over unexpected juxtapositions is at once the mark and the diversion of banal minds, and most of them do not require very remarkable happenings to constitute coincidences.
Philip Ward - The Dictionary of Common Fallacies Oleander Press.
The unexplained is the definition of supernatural. They are equals.
No, the unexplained is the definition of not-yet-explained.
Nothing do to with being outside of nature.
wat? Are you talking like, nuclear powered humans or something...?
Supernatural = beyond scientific understanding.
The "unexplained" means it is beyond current scientific understanding. Not explained by science.
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