Despite the fact that I don't have to provide evidence against a claim you didn't make (or are you now saying you ARE making the claim that this is paranormal? Get your story straight) - the fact that there has NEVER been any scientifically validated evidence of "paranormal activity" seems like a good indication this isn't likely anything paranormal.
What you are asking for, in essence, is proof that pink fuzzy unicorns don't actually exist and dont' actually go dancing on rainbows...
Science has a hard time validating the paranormal, including aliens, because they are rare events and irreproducible. If aliens don't want to be known yet, there are various methods to make sure there is no concrete evidence. They know people like you won't believe even 5 eyewitness testimonies, all they need is to make sure they aren't filmed basically, which is easily achievable, especially if we assume that are more technologically advanced than us. Anyway, again, the paranormal is incompatible with the scientific method because it is rare and irreproducible. Look how long it took to find evidence for the Higgs Boson. We needed to build a hulking machine that cost BILLIONS of dollars and thousands of man hours in order to find evidence for something STATIC, meaning it's always there. Paranormal phenomenon is even more stringent than that. Like I said: irreproducible. I don't believe people can reliably see into the future for instance. This would be easily reproducible, and compatible with scientific testing. There is a study using RNG machinery where it seems total consciousness of humanity seems to predict certain events, so this may show we can tap into it eventually, but as of yet it is not reliable or we would know through scientific testing.
I don't think there can be such thing as a ghost like you see in fictional stories like Casper. They can't talk to you or hold a conversation with you, or if they did, it won't be reproducible. You can't get a group to come in next Saturday and let them hear you talk to an invisible being. That's too easy. We would be able to validate that. How many times have credible news crews come to a so called "haunted building" only to find nothing? These things are incredibly rare. I believe some of these recordings are legit, but again, they aren't reproducible. How easy would it be if there were a voice that kept talking all the time in this one building? It would become a tourist attraction and it would make worldwide news. This obviously isn't the case. These events are rare. But we know they are REAL because of so many testimonies. We accept these testimonies on just about everything else except cases such as these.
No, my "thesis" is that eye-witness testimony is not reliable, whether it be auditory or visual recollection.
That was the point being made by others - and I merely added some weight to that notion.
Do you have an issue with that?
And yeah, it was about the photo.
Show me a study done where 5 people heard the same human voice saying the same sentence when it actually wasn't a human voice at all, but "a talking machine". SHOW THIS STUDY TO ME AND I WILL REST MY CASE, PROMISE. People misremembering something is much more common than implanted memories happening at the same time to 5 different people.
Even high ranking individuals and respected people in general are not infallible.
Everyone makes mistakes...everyone at some time or another can be fooled.
The fact remains, we have no hard evidence for UFOs of Alien origin.
Plus of course logic and common sense dictates that any Alien visitation would be well in advance of us. So why are they always just picking up isolated individuals out in the back of nowhere, and why do they all appear paranoid and obsessed with Anal probing.
If and when we are finally visited, we will all know about it, not just some isolated delusional person in the middle of nowhere.
This is not a fact. We don't know what they are doing, what their purposes are, or why they do what they do, but there's enough evidence here to put someone away for life, that's enough for me to believe it. There is no explanation for some cattle mutilation cases too. Why mutilate cattle? Good question. But it's a mystery. At some point we do have to say we do not have the answers. We have enough evidence to believe in quantum mechanics but there is still mysterious parts of it we have to say we don't know to. I understand the scientific method and alien visitation hasn't met that standard of evidence yet, but we as humans don't always go by that to believe in something. None of us do, even intellectuals. If 5 of your friends told you Breaking Bad was a good show and that you should watch it, you would believe them! You don't need the scientific method for everything you believe in your life.
While not for the purpose of showing the "reliability" of eye-witness accounts, these certainly make you think about how much we miss, and by inference how much we would simply get wrong.
Hearing someone call for help is nowhere near as complex as this. If it were, I might agree with you.
Still more likely than magic spirits.
By what reasoning?
Oh yeah, eye witnesses are so reliable!
What color is the dress?
They aren't lying. Their accounts are reliable. They are seeing the dress that color. I fail to see how this is proof 5 eyewitnesses aren't reliable.
No, that is not evidence of "paranormal" activity... that is evidence of unknown activity
It's the same thing to me! It's not natural. I call it supernatural phenomenon. I don't know what it is, but it's real. I don't know if that was a ghost and all the baggage that comes with that label. I don't know if the mother died, became a ghost, and was able to then speak again somehow, I don't know if it was the mother, but a voice did happen, and that is supernatural phenomenon.
People assume "ghosts". People assume "spirits". As if these are beings like humans with their own intelligence and consciousness and they are roaming around the Earth, that they are a separate entity like aliens. But what if they are just the consciousness left over by others? We don't know what consciousness is yet really. But just like how your eyes can move still after being decapitated, your consciousness may still live on in the minds of others for some time, with events, objects, or location connecting you.
Fact: Relatives sometimes experience knowing that their loved one has died before they are aware of the event.
Fact: It is proven that we can connect with another person's consciousness through Michael Persinger's God Helmet.
Fact: Our consciousness is connected in some way (electro magnetic field?) and reflects that in RNG machines.
All this proves is that people that alive are connected, perhaps through the electricity our brains emit, but maybe part of people exist in everyone's brains somehow. Just a thought. There's nothing to prove this, but it seems logical. Just my theory.
All of those "EVPs" posted by Magic Realist are short, do you notice that? I think it further supports this post.
