Proof of the supernatural

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Kittamaru said:
There's no evidence they heard voices at all...

Thus, in the face of zero evidence either way, the more plausible story makes sense.
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Eyewitness account of the event by 4 rescue workers is solid evidence. Anything else you wanna make up about it? Or are you done here?
 
It's only evidence that they're claiming that they heard something. It's not evidence that there really was a ghost.
 
Magical Realist said:
Eyewitness account of the event by 4 rescue workers is solid evidence. Anything else you wanna make up about it? Or are you done here?
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That isn't evidence of anything paranormal - again, that has several far more mundane and scientifically backed explanations... unless you can provide some actual evidence, then yes, we are about done here
 
Magical Realist said:
It's far more likely that, as is evidenced in photos, videos, and paranormal investigations the world over, that they heard the same voice saying the same thing at the same time from the same location than that they all simultaneously hallucinated the same thing. And yeah..we've heard your "explanations". Still sticking to the talking dolphin? lol!
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Dolphins are natural, they exist, there is no evidence that anything supernatural exists.
 
Magical Realist said:
Nope..the evidence for the paranormal is indisputable and clear.
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Given your desire to have the rules upheld in a more literal understanding -

you will, of course, show why it is impossible for this to have been any number of more mundane explanations given here. I want medical records, psychological profiles, background checks, etc
 
Kittamaru said:
That isn't evidence of anything paranormal - again, that has several far more mundane and scientifically backed explanations... unless you can provide some actual evidence, then yes, we are about done here
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The people who actually heard the voice is evidence enough. You have nothing but spurious claims about ambient noises, schizophrenic voices in the head, and ulterior motives by the rescuers to make the local headlines. IOW, nothing at all. The story stands as a testament to the remarkable power of a mother's love to hang around 14 hours after she died to help her dying child get rescued. It is an inspiration and witness to miraculous nature of our reality and the infinite possibilities that lie within it.
 
Kittamaru said:
Given your desire to have the rules upheld in a more literal understanding -

you will, of course, show why it is impossible for this to have been any number of more mundane explanations given here. I want medical records, psychological profiles, background checks, etc
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That burden would be on you--the one making the claims that it was a mundane factor instead of a real voice. So get to work. I'll wait...
 
Magical Realist said:
That burden would be on you--the one making the claims that it was a mundane factor instead of a real voice. So get to work. I'll wait...
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Nope, not how this works - you are claiming it to be supernatural instead of one of the plethora of natural occurrences - that places the burden of proof on you. After all - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
Kittamaru said:
Nope, not how this works - you are claiming it to be supernatural instead of one of the plethora of natural occurrences - that places the burden of proof on you. After all - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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My evidence that it was a real voice of a spirit is the testimony of the 4 rescuers. That and then them finding the mother in the car already dead. Where's your evidence that it was a hallucination, schizophenia, or ambient noise? That's YOUR claim. Now support it. Medical records? Audio? Still waiting...Tick tick..
 
You would have to rule out all possible naturalistic explanations before your theory is at all plausible, and you haven't.
 
Magical Realist said:
My evidence that it was a real voice of a spirit is the testimony of the 4 rescuers. That and then them finding the mother in the car already dead. Where's your evidence that it was a hallucination, schizophenia, or ambient noise? That's YOUR claim. Now support it.
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Again, that's not how science works. Several probable (and scientifically sound) explanations were given - you claim them to be impossible or incorrect despite common knowledge. Thus, it falls to you to show why the mundane cannot be and thus why an extraordinary explanation is required.

Welcome to Science - the standard to which your posts will be judged, as are the posts in the true science sections.
 
Magical Realist said:
My evidence that it was a real voice of a spirit is the testimony of the 4 rescuers. That and then them finding the mother in the car already dead. Where's your evidence that it was a hallucination, schizophenia, or ambient noise? That's YOUR claim. Now support it. Medical records? Audio? Still waiting...Tick tick..
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Again, that's not evidence of the existence of ghosts, it's just evidence that they claimed to hear something.

There's just as much evidence that what they heard was aliens.
 
Kittamaru said:
Again, that's not how science works. Several probable (and scientifically sound) explanations were given - you claim them to be impossible or incorrect despite common knowledge. Thus, it falls to you to show why the mundane cannot be and thus why an extraordinary explanation is required.

Welcome to Science - the standard to which your posts will be judged, as are the posts in the true science sections.
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All speculations of someone who wasn't there. Why are you making claims you have no evidence to back up? Tick tick...
 
spidergoat said:
Actually it is human nature to hallucinate. No one knows what they heard. It's far more likely that they are all lying than that the entire natural order were upended as in the case of your supernatural explanation. I could name thousands of things which are more likely. But you want to believe your silly beliefs so you don't care.
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Why would "the entire natural order" have to be suspended?
 
Daecon said:
Again, that's not evidence of the existence of ghosts, it's just evidence that they claimed to hear something.

There's just as much evidence that what they heard was aliens.
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It could be aliens. All we know is that the voice was real.

spidergoat said:
Dolphins are natural, they exist, there is no evidence that anything supernatural exists.
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Talking dolphins are natural?
 
Magical Realist said:
All speculations of someone who wasn't there. Why are you making claims you have no evidence to back up? Tick tick...
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indeed tick tick - you have a deadline to prove or retract your claim, per the site rules.

the only claim I have made is that there are far more mundane explanations for this - a claim that myself and others have provided plenty of evidence for.
 
Ghosts and the like , the supernatural , never seem to be investigated in the real world by any disbelievers

One wonders why ?

There are many very haunted places to experience , and not for a day but for at least a week
 
Kittamaru said:
indeed tick tick - you have a deadline to prove or retract your claim, per the site rules.

the only claim I have made is that there are far more mundane explanations for this - a claim that myself and others have provided plenty of evidence for.
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You made claims based on no evidence whatsoever. They didn't even make sense, as if hallucinatios could be shared by 4 people. As if paradolia can occur from a car that is making no noise. Now you are claiming I of all people have to provide evidence for your claims being false?
 
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