Proof of the supernatural

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While not for the purpose of showing the "reliability" of eye-witness accounts, these certainly make you think about how much we miss, and by inference how much we would simply get wrong.


 
Magical Realist said:
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People have trouble deciding what color the dress is in the picture on the right. Some say it is white and gold and some say it is black and blue. It is weird but that is the problem with an eyewitness. Thanks for supplying the picture and making my point!
 
garbonzo said:
I trust the overwhelming amount of eye witness testimonies of so many high ranking officials, just to name one category of highly respected individuals.
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Even high ranking individuals and respected people in general are not infallible.
Everyone makes mistakes...everyone at some time or another can be fooled.
The fact remains, we have no hard evidence for UFOs of Alien origin.
Plus of course logic and common sense dictates that any Alien visitation would be well in advance of us. So why are they always just picking up isolated individuals out in the back of nowhere, and why do they all appear paranoid and obsessed with Anal probing.
If and when we are finally visited, we will all know about it, not just some isolated delusional person in the middle of nowhere.
 
origin said:
People have trouble deciding what color the dress is in the picture on the right. Some say it is white and gold and some say it is black and blue. It is weird but that is the problem with an eyewitness. Thanks for supplying the picture and making my point!
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Wrong. Nobody doubts that the dress is black and blue now since the other pic was posted. So you have no point, as usual...
 
Sarkus said:
While not for the purpose of showing the "reliability" of eye-witness accounts, these certainly make you think about how much we miss, and by inference how much we would simply get wrong.


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Don't know what that has to do with 5 trained rescue workers all hearing a woman's voice crying "help me! Help me!" from a wrecked car. According to your thesis, all the workers should've missed hearing something. But they didn't. They all heard the same thing.
 
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Wrong. Nobody doubts that the dress is black and blue now since the other pic was posted. So you have no point, as usual...
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You missed (or deliberately ignored) the point. Again.

It's not about the dress, it's about the photo of the dress.

Eye witnesses of the photo give contradictory statements about the colour of the dress in the photo.
 
Daecon said:
You missed (or deliberately ignored) the point. Again.

It's not about the dress, it's about the photo of the dress.

Eye witnesses of the photo give contradictory statements about the colour of the dress in the photo.
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No..it was about the color of the dress, not the photo. Nobody doubts that the dress is black and blue.
 
Magical Realist said:
Don't know what that has to do with 5 trained rescue workers all hearing a woman's voice crying "help me! Help me!" from a wrecked car. According to your thesis, all the workers should've missed hearing something. But they didn't. They all heard the same thing.
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No, my "thesis" is that eye-witness testimony is not reliable, whether it be auditory or visual recollection.

That was the point being made by others - and I merely added some weight to that notion.
Do you have an issue with that?


And yeah, it was about the photo. ;)
 
No, my "thesis" is that eye-witness testimony is not reliable, whether it be auditory or visual recollection.
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Five eyewitnesses hearing the same thing at the same time is very reliable, and certainly much more reliable than anyone who wasn't even there speculating that it never happened. I'll stick with the eyewitnesses..
 
Magical Realist said:
Five eyewitnesses hearing the same thing at the same time is very reliable, and certainly much more reliable than anyone who wasn't even there speculating that it never happened. I'll stick with the eyewitnesses..
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You have an amazing ability to ignore, miss, or otherwise not realize the point when something is evidence against your claims, and yet you find any little tidbit to support them...

I call this superpower Confirmation Bias.
 
You have an amazing ability to ignore, miss, or otherwise not realize the point when something is evidence against your claims, and yet you find any little tidbit to support them...
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What evidence against my claim?-- which btw isn't MY claim but the claim of the 5 rescue workers who were actually there..
 
Magical Realist said:
What evidence against my claim?-- which btw isn't MY claim but the claim of the 5 rescue workers who were actually there..
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So you aren't claiming this to be a "paranormal event" then? Interesting... then why are you debating it as such?
 
Magical Realist said:
Five eyewitnesses hearing the same thing at the same time is very reliable, and certainly much more reliable than anyone who wasn't even there speculating that it never happened. I'll stick with the eyewitnesses..
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You're not though, you are inventing an explanation for their experience that is undefined and unscientific.
 
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