Couldn't you have been more efficient in saying all that? For example: One instance would have been sufficient, more readable, and would've driven your point home. The need to use three indicates to me that your not confident enough in your argument.
Oh, I'm quite confident in my argument. And yup, I could have put it short and simple, but the reason why I tend to repeat things in different ways is to drill my point into your brain. If you would have read the short and simple version, it would have made no impact and you would have just schluffed it off. But the more ways I put it, the more it gets stuck in your head. It's the only way to convert sensitive or weak-minded people without using any physical means.
I take it you’re against any video game that allows one to play themselves as a Nazi too? – N
Nope. Unless its something like concentration camp tycoon.
Why not? What’s the difference? Because it’s just a “game”? Good. Well now you at least somewhat get it. Now don’t be so upset with Price Harry because it was just a “costume party”. Otherwise you’re just bitching for the sake of bitching.
The Japanese in WWII were more vile and malicious than Nazi’s! - N
Actually, I prefer the Japanese because they didn't pick favourites. If you weren't explicitly on their side, you were their enemy. None of this wishy washy dehumanizing Nazi crap where you had Jewish kapo's trading their dignity for a little extra life. The Japanese soldiers were vicious bastards, but at least they had an honour system.
Indiscrimate killing > genocide
Symantics. And you’re also full of it too. I can almost guarantee that if the Japanese were the ones harming Jewish people, you would be screaming as much bloody murder against them rather than the Nazis’.
And what do you mean the Japanese weren’t indiscriminate? They flat out killed anyone who wasn’t Japanese. Now if they did kill lots of Japanese with no remorse, than you’d have a point. Killing all races is worse than picking on one (which Jews weren’t the only ones to be picked on) because rather than one race going bye bye, we’ll have all being removed off the face of the Earth. An honor system.. heh, that’s pretty amusing. I’ll try and use that excuse sometime if I ever do something bad.
Dressing up as a solider while NOT on duty seems like a pretty stupid thing to me.
I guess you haven’t been to many costume parties then.
But to answer your question: no. As long as they realize they may be stepping on somebodies toes and are willing to accept the consequences.
Well we’re at least in agreement here. But again, the problem is how loud the Jews cry when something offends them. The only ones worse than Jews when it comes to complaining is the ACLU. Again, where is all the news and cries of outrage of other groups offended by someone being dressed up in an offending outfit to them? I don’t see ANY news footage or articles about others, but if something that offends only the Jews, all of a sudden BLAM, it makes headline news and is talked about for the next couple days. Those other people don’t even get a small blurb. You guys are acting like little babies with no self-control.
And no, all because one says something bad, no, actually true, about a Jew, it doesn’t mean I’m anti-semetic because I know that insult is gonna be coming my way, lol. – N
Presumption-- another sign of skewed reasoning. Notice how I didn't call Harry an 'anti-semite' but rather, an insensitive person.
True, and that’s my fault. But for me even having to say something like that so I wouldn’t be called it shows that there’s a problem. Usually when I read or hear something said wrongly, even if it may be true, about Jews, 75% of the time the only rebuttal I hear is that they’re an anti-semite. I’m always going to wonder if you would have called me that if I wouldn’t have made that “save my ass from being called it” comment.
Because people who dress like Nazi's are either unaware or ignorant of the ideas tied to them. These ideas, like the stench on a funeral service suit, can only be washed away by hundreds of years of temporal distance. Otherwise, its voluntary shame for them to dress as such a low form of humanity. I define that as stupidity.
As I said, many groups have done bad things yet nobody fusses about them as much as Jews do about Nazis’. Just because Nazis’ may have done bad things such as what they did to Jewish people, does it mean everything they stood for is completely evil and should be ignored? They had many good concepts so I see no reason for people to ignore them completely. The only reason why many do is because they failed in what they set out to do. If they would have kept control of most of Europe and existed as a country today, they would be no different than Americans of today. America has done many horrendous things, killed lots of innocent people, and while people have good reason to be angry at us, I don’t hear them screaming bloody murder about such small trivial things as someone being dressed up as an American soldier or waving the U.S. flag.
Now don’t get me wrong, you have every right to hate Nazism, just don’t cry like babies about every single little thing, even if hearing or seeing the word. Be the bigger person and show some restraint and self-control. This campaign that Jews launch at them -- heck, anyone who dislikes, or says anything bad about Jews, period -- is just flat out ridiculous though.
Everyone has various radical ideals no different than you or me and I'm sure many will claim ours are illogical or not realistic. – N
Mine are rational and ironic. I'm not 'radical' for the sake of humor like some.
Yours are only rational and ironic according to yourself. It’s mere opinion. I can guarantee there will be groups of people that are offended by your views, as harmless as they may seem. What is considered rational, ironic, and radical is all subjective. It all depends on who you’re asking.
The majority of Germans were not in favour of the Nazi's. And you're absolutely right; innocent children of Jewish and Gypsie descent hanging from the gallows is an accomplishment to be proud of. Not looked down on in shame.
Where did I say that? What I said is that many groups have done disgusting things, some even worse than Nazis’, yet they’re not seen to be as bad as them which is stupid. The only reason why Nazis’ are seen as bad as they are is because of the Jewish campaign trying to make everyone feel pity for them. Your crying has already gotten you your own country so you can stop now, but I guess you’ll never stop till you have everything. Everything which the Nazis’ tried to get as well but just failed at. If you want to talk about horrific acts, don’t even let me bring up things that Israeli’s have done! This is why it makes people look so bad when they complain so much because the skeletons in their closet will make them look like fools as well.
We feel democracy is the best choice but not everyone. We're no different than Nazis. We’re forcefully spreading our own idealism on others. The Nazis put people in deathcamps and we bomb em. I don't care what method is used as the outcome is the same. In the end, both sides are either good or both sides are either bad. One side can’t be exempt from ridicule. The only reason why what we Americans are doing isn’t looked as being bad (well, it actually is, heh) is because we’re the #1 superpower in the world. Once we fail and are no longer a superpower, voices will be much louder. Imagine if another country were trying to do what we’re doing? They’d be looked at as monsters too. – N
Isn't that beside the point? You're comparing apples to oranges. Even though the underlying logic is correct, Nazi's got away with much worse than evangelists.
Well first off, Nazis’ didn’t get away with anything (other than the scientists and a few bad people that snuck away). It’s everyone else that has, such as my own country, the United States. I’m not comparing apples to oranges when one group that has commited bad acts is made to be seen as the Army of Satan, yet another group that is just as bad DOES get away with it and is seen as being saviours. And while there are people that dislike or may even loath the U.S., why is it that some are able to get away with looking at the U.S. in a good light without being called something bad, yet when someone looks at Nazism even in a slight light, is then a total ignoramus and is called every insult in every dictionary of the world? Yes, Nazis’ did bad things to people, but you guys have gone overboard with it.
For now on, nobody shall be allowed to wear an Israeli uniform period because of the tension between them and Arabs. And I'm not talking when you're around an Arab, but anywhere period even if you're in a place that don't mind Israelies. – N
I don't see why anybody would want to? Costumes are supposed to be fun not provocative. Leave that for the catwalk.
While you may not see why anyone would want to, many do. Just don’t stick your nose in everything and start critizing them for doing something that is different from your belief.
Harry was having fun at his own party. The only people allowed to be offended by his costume are the ones at that ball. For anything else, they just need to shut the hell up and quit sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. – N
When I see something that offends me, I don't slink away because I'm not involved directly. Its my businness if I want it to be and any attempts to 'shut me up' are futile.
Well you have some self-control issues then if you’re going to voice your differing opinion on everything. But even if I have no problem with your doing so, at least try not to blow it out of proportion which sadly is what is being done with Prince Harry. This is the problem that people have when Jews cry about something. It’s not that they don’t have the right to, but because of the huge mess they turn it into! That is probably the ONLY problem (at least regarding myself) some have with them, but unfortunately it’s a biggy.
"In relative terms, the Persian treatment of other religions, including the jews, is among the first enlightened and universal practice of religious tolerance in ancient times, a practice which was perhaps more universal and inclusive than the restricted religious tolerance of the Moslems limited to "the people of the book.""
Xerxes was awesome, and on the whole, so was persia.
The fact that he married a Jewish woman is proof that he wasn't an anti-semite.
Thanks for the further info. But hey, quit with the mention of the whole anti-semite thing.
Oh wait, there was the kid who wore a Hezbolah armband in some college and then, oh wait, it was Jewish people again that complained about that as well. – N
Why would anyone wear an armband unless they were deliberately trying to provoke?
Well I forget the exact details, but at the time when I was keeping up with that story, I agreed with the person. I had something to do with some class or subject regarding freedom of belief and also oppression. I dunno, like I said, I forget the details. But hey, whatever the reason for it, even if it were to provoke, it still made headlines and was on the news for a couple days. Funny how it’s only things that offend Jews that make such headlines. You guys scream the loudest and it’s quite annoying. Your campaign of the oppression of the Jews is never-ending and it only adds to the number of people that may dislike you guys rather than trying to gain sympathizers. Like I said, you have every right to and I don’t blame you guys, just don’t get so carried away with it!
You know, you're right. Burning people alive, and keeping a quota of others around for hard labour, experiments that we don't even perform on animals, starvation and exposure to the elements really isn't that bad.
Things which the Japanese did as well, if not even more worse things, yet almost everyone loves Japanese people and their culture. Other than reading about, or watching a documentary on, it, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone complaining about the Japanese. The Jewish propoganda is just like Bush propoganda. Point out a flaw and complain about something so that everyone forgets about the worse problem and they get away scot free.
- N
P.S. – Holy crap that was long, heh.
