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I take it you know about as much about catholicism as reteryalizer or fuck all.
false teachings. you protestant have to be the most arrogant bastards the world has ever seen. Guess what you don't get to come around some 1500 years later and than tell the group you broke off of that their teachings are false
as for making it up along has been attached to a few religions cathloicism not one of them. thinking that just show blind hatred, complete ignorance, or some combo of the two.
yes catholicism has problems but people who know fuck all( nothing) about the faith should actualy try and learn WTF your talking about before hand.
(shakes head)
You know when I can just pop open a catholic encyclopedia and list the contradictions of their own doctrine, the MONUMENTAL failures of morality and the endorsed killings despite the fact that Christianity under Christ is supposed to be the tolerant of others despite fundamental disagreement. Yet they used it as a blunt object through out time and today...the children scared by this religion... thousands if not Millions. COSMIC IS RIGHT. I have personally monitored the selling of Catholic property, the attenuation of it's members and the hard nosed atheist it's produced because the only truth they were convinced of is how wrong it was to trust a catholic priest.
...no accountability.
I hate what they've done. But I know it's just systemic.
I like the way you just slipped evolution in there.
No offense of course, Captain.
From a Christian perspective evolution defies the legitimacy of the creation account the lineage that was based on it that the Jews used to identify Jesus as the Messiah if it's assumed to be allegory only. The entire point of the consistent listing of the Sons and Fathers was identify the Davidic line. It's most important to a christian...it's a foundation of the ransom sacrifice that he was....one of those rare sons of God...like Adam.
Evolution can currently fit within Christian teaching, not as the method of creation but of adaptation after creation. So you see it's very pivotal to Christian Foundation.
As regards Hitler, how many churches did actively oppose him?
The Jehovah''s Witnesses did. And got their own badge at the concentration camps for their pains.
Bingo...and they paid for it.
As did the free masons who refused to abide.
But it's more than just opposing. I read somewhere that the pope conducted meetings to ensure Catholicism's continued presence in occupied Europe.
(Searching)
Frankly some of this is disturbing...
The Gathering Storm: by Churchill
Winston Churchill reports that Hitler appointed Franz von Papen as German minister to Vienna for "the undermining or winning over of leading personalities in Austrian politics." Churchill quotes the U.S. Minster in Vienna as saying of van Papen: "In the boldest and most cynical manner... Papen proceeded to tell me that...he intended to use his reputation as a good Catholic to gain influence with the Austrians like Cardinal Innitzer."
After Austria had capitulated Hitler's storm troopers had goose-stepped into Vienna, Catholic cardinal Innitzer ordered that all Austrian churches fly the swastika flag, ring their bells and pray for Adolf Hitler in honor of his birthday.
William L. Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich states that von Papen was "more responsible than any other individual in Germany for Hitler's coming to power." In January 1933 former German Chancellor von Schleicher had said of van Papen: "He proved to be the kind of traitor besides whom Judas Iscariot is a saint."
Ah...Here we go.
July 20, 1933
Cardinal Pacelli signed a concordat in Rome between the Vatican and Nazi Germany. Von Papen signed the document as Hitler's representative and Pacelli there conferred on von Papen the high papal decoration of the Grand Cross of the Order of Pius.
Tibor Koeves'
Satan in Top Hat
" The Concordat was great victory for Hitler. It gave him the first moral support he had received from the outer world and this from the most exalted source"
Article 14 of the Concordat states:
"The appointments for archbishops, bishops and the like will be issued only after the governor, installed by the Reich , has duly ascertained that no doubts exist with respect to general political considerations." This man become Pope Pius XI.
And the Greek Orthodox church. They were brave. Maybe a few more.
Many Catholics opposed Hitler in private, but did not oppose him.
What of other Christians?
Most just kept their heads down, same as Catholics, to their shame.
Read Guenter Lewy's
The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany.
It's a lot to type out of a book. See pates 320, 341.
I'll type it if I have time. The insight this man has on capitulation and what it would mean if Rome had not...is thought provoking.
This is becoming a very good discussion.
I'm not often against ONE particular religion but I have read some STUFF on Catholicism that literally makes my skin crawl. I've listened to the recounting of children of the survivors of the holocaust and what they went through.
It's so clear...(at least to me) that the Catholic authority as a religion is one of the most morally treacherous entities I have EVER encountered in my readings of history. They constantly play both sides. I don't believe Christianity was ever meant to be a religion of nations but a faith of people among the nations.