Come on SAM - ZERO???
You don't find that a little ... ooo I don't know - STUPID? We both know that the Indians' and Greeks wrong extensively about Zero 1000s of years before Islam. Greeks spent volume debating the very concept of zero and Indian notion used zero as it is today (Greek astronomers put a dot in the middle)
Why don't I did up the citation for you? Because we had this same God Damn discussion 1 million times and I am tired of spending half the day digging up the citation to post it for you. If anything YOU should remember and YOU should be the one refuting tresbien and Arsalan. The question is: Why aren't you? Go back to the massive thread about art and sculpture and find it yourself. Christ I posted it for YOU three times now.
Why don't you post to tresbien the fact that zero was most certainly NOT "invented" by Muhammad bin Moosaa. I mean Jesus H Christ.
Michael
The Europeans would have ignored it from the Indians don't you know? Because they were such dirty little savages living in mud huts. They only accepted it through the Arabs because someone (probably an Arab or a Persian) took the trouble to translate it into a language they already knew.
"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose."
http://www.sciam.com/math/article/id/what-is-the-origin-of-zerThe symbol changed over time as positional notation (for which zero was crucial), made its way to the Babylonian empire and from there to India, via the Greeks (in whose own culture zero made a late and only occasional appearance; the Romans had no trace of it at all). Arab merchants brought the zero they found in India to the West. After many adventures and much opposition, the symbol we use was accepted and the concept flourished, as zero took on much more than a positional meaning. Since then, it has played avital role in mathematizing the world.
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