Frencheneesz,
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1 Corinthians 16:14
"14 Let all that you do be done in love."
Of course I would. I even talked about that before...:bugeye:Truthseeker, have you ever thought of the possibility that your whole world only exists inside your mind? All of us, your friends, the ground beneith you are only electrical signals in your brain, or perhaps you have quite a different neurological system? If I preached to you that this was true, that this universe does not actually exist exept in your mind, and I tell you I have faith in it, would you believe me?
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Not if you refuse to listen to Him.Who are you to say that the universe is "too complex"? Who are you to tell us what GOD wants? Can't he tell it to us HIMSELF?
Then maybe I need glasses...?Really, ONLY ignorance, ONLY hatred, ONLY confusion, ONLY stupidity? This is the sum of all human accomplishments? I think you are quite presumptuous with this opinion of the world.
Again, the actions of the Catholics are not approved by actual Christians. They totally forget scriptures such as:As a counter, I can verily ask "What Has knowlege of god and the church accomplished?": HATRED (religious wars up the wazoo, religious prejudice, disunity of religion over petty differences), IGNORANCE (many religious people do not LEARN about things, thinking the bible is the only source of knowlege, don't learn about the body to be able to take care of it, the bible will teach you, don't learn about the rest of the world to be able to make enlightened decisions, because a 2000 year old book will tell you a TON about how to deal with TODAY), CONFUSION (many people don't know what the hell to do about god), STUPIDITY (ties very deeply into ignorance).
1 Corinthians 16:14
"14 Let all that you do be done in love."
I cannot easily see a good side about it. Well... I can say that if it wasn't for science I wouldn't be talking with you... but I can still say that God made the computer possible in the first place. So let's concider that a positive thing then...Well what kind of accomplishments are THOSE? Unlike yourself I see good sides to the opposite side of the argument, religion brings groups of people together to work toward similar goals. These people have a book that guides them toward good living, instead of blindly going about life relying solely on the poor public education system.
People are ignorant about the Bible. If they would read it more, they would understand it better and wouldn't have things like blind faith, for example. there are always two sides of the spectrum. There are people that are fanatics, and there are also those who doubt. None of those are good. People need to find a balance there.But it is not god that gives the good side to religion, it is the people, the group, the unity. But the closed mindedness of deciding that that ancient tome is the ONLY truth ultimately makes you ignorant.
There are some positives points indeed. But what I've been saying is that people don't understand what is in the Bible, and A LOT of those people don't understand simply because they have already their mind sets in the Catholic religion, which I can even say is a false Christianism.To answer your question, since old times we have learned how to prolong life and save it (a good thing, I've heard, for the pro-life people), people have learned to become more efficient in bringing food, water, and comfort to the people so we can focus on more petty things.
Technology doesn't improve things. We need to chance our attitudes in order to create an "Utopia". With an individualist attitude that says "me, me, me", we will NEVER get there.Do you really expect humans to create a Utopia using our minds in the few 300 years that people have learned to break away from religion and USE their minds to build technology and knowlege?
God never said we are worthless. If we were worthless, why would He care about saving us in the first place? Catholics don't really believe that Jesus saved us. They are ot Christians at all!A lot of good your god has done us, where is that Utopia of which lack you blame the Human ability to think? Nuclear bombs are only part of the issue, by bringing up only the bad parts of the issue, of course it sounds as if everything is bad, but that is not the whole story. Come to terms with reality. I know I can't convince you that god is not real, but at least free yourself from the delusion that we are Worthless peices of shit that god need to scrape off his shoe..