SnakeLord,
That's the word of a shepherd. Now Prove it was said by anything other than a shepherd. You assume because a shepherd said so, it means God said so...
Oh God... you really know ANYTHING about the Bible, do you? It
wasn't Jesus who said that, it was
Paul. Paul is the one who wrote the letter to the Corinthians. Before talking about the Bible, please read it first. :bugeye:
On a more important note I can find examples of your text above in many different forms and languages for many different beliefs. All would claim exactly the same things you do. How is it only you are right and they are wrong? Can you please, above all else, answer me that question, (Without resorting to scripture which is NOT an answer- I would prefer YOUR answer to why you are right, they are wrong. I know you're just a pathetic low-life human being with no mind of your own like the rest of us but at least try).
Show me the other views and I will tell you my view.
Of course i can.. There is no proof of 'him, it, whatever'. His whole existence is nothing more than a collection of ancient stories. My existence is undisputed. You can assume you are powerful enough to answer for him, (although your own words would show that to be false). If he has a claim to his wisdom, he is surely wise enough to make that claim for himself. You are a nothing, a pointless worthless little human like the rest of us... why would, or should, anyone ever listen to a word you say or take you as being genuine? You rely on the words of shepherds, i embrace my own being and my own knowledge why you make silly assumptions on an ancient novel. As for humbler.. maybe you should be a bit more self-dependant instead of relying on a big invisible dood. You can't make your own choices and way through life which is fair enough, if not a tad weak spirited. If you don't want or agree with my advice we're in the same position. What, with your lack of wisdom, (in your own words), makes you think i'd need suggestions to what i should do from you?
And WHO said I lack wisdom? I didn't. Tell me where I did. The words I speak are mines, but my words are just a mere imperfect copy of the Word of God. My words do reflect His Word, but His Word is more powerful then mine. But there will be one day that He will speak through me, and then His Word will be fully spoken through my mouth.
I'm not totally dependent on Him. I must grow up too, making the right choices. He does advice me, but I not always follow His advice (what is not very wise to do). I'm like a child that is just learning how to walk. I do walk a little bit, but I still fall a little bit also. But my Father is watching over me and if I fall, He brings me up again and encourages me to try again.
That seems to be you saying: unless you agree with me exclusively there's no point in stating my belief.
No, that is me saying: read what I speak first, and
then reply. In the last quote, you said that I said that I'm not wise. But I've never said that. If you were really listening to me, you wouldn't make such mistake.
Why use the term 'you'? You don't know me. He doesn't tell me anything or show me anything. What i see in life is amazing- but at no point does it mean it's the work of a divine being. The things you see and hear could be nothing more than schizophrenia. And unfortunately just because you happen to say so doesn't make it total fact.
Millions of people are affected by Him everyday. There are A LOT of facts out there. I'm quite sure there are more Christians then atheists in this world. Does this tell you something? Most people seem to listen to God. If you are not one it is because you chose so.
You don't WANT Thor to exist, so he wont exist for you. You said it yourself..... You don't seem to be impartial. You said it was 'important to be partial' and yet show otherwise. Nothing but pure contradiction. Only time anything is correct is when its directly in your favour, otherwise you can contradict and show total hypocricy all you like. Again the self centered and delusional belief that you solely are right and everyone else is wrong.
No. You totally turned it around. Thor doesn't exist because I've never heard from him, and
NOT the other way around.
1) I praise myself for doing what i want to do in life, for being who i am, for doing what i do.
Big deal. How is that great at all? That's totally not worth of being praised. :bugeye:
Yeah... and you are certainly imperfect. So getting back to the first question, why do you praise yourself?
3)Sins? Hell yes i've done some naughty things in life. I learnt the error of my ways by maturing to adulthood, not by listening to voices in my head. But what of my sins? I'm just gonna get forgiveness for them in the end anyway so who cares? But who's version of 'sins' are we following? I've heard of religious people who don't let their children play computer games because it's an evil sin... or watch tv etc etc... None of these were written in the bible so who's to now judge what's a sin or not? And if i get to heaven and get turned down cause i played diablo 2 on playstation frankly i'd be better off without being in the presence of the space equivalent of Saddam Hussein.
Humans have always being adding new "commandments" into the Law. When Jesus came, there were already hundreds or even thousands of additiona; Laws. Imagine today...
You won't get forgiveness for your sins unless you repent and be filled with God's Spirit. The only way you can get in Heaven is if God is within you.
One more thing. To go to Heaven, you are NOT required to follow the Law, you are only advised to do so.
4) What do you know what i do or dont do? A meager little person without wisdom is assuming to know what i do or dont do? Bah don't be such a fool. While your kind create wars, create feeling of personal worthlessness, deem yourselves high enough to attempt the forcing of people to believe as you do, cause the death and destruction of so much that is beautfiul and so on I do my best to lead a moral existence. My wife, and my daughter believe i've done good enough. That's all i need.
Christians don't make war. Hyprocrites do.
John 15:17
"17 This I command you, that you love one another. "
Romans 13:8
"8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law."
5) I don't get what you're trying to say. If i'm so great why dont people worship me? Why would they have to? Why would they want to? Everyone believe it or not is unique. They can do as they please. The only reason i could not make everyone worship me is simply because i cannot strike them down with lightning or refuse them eternal life. The way it has been done is with threats, making you live a life of fear in order to keep that faith. All belief in your own abilites and personality have been stripped clean leaving nothing more than a wandering zombie. If i made you fear me to that extent you would worship me. Would you consider that a good thing or a bad thing? Living a life in fear.. shameful. If someone wants to worship me for whatever reason then that's their choice and they're free to do as they please.. but for anything to order it be that way or they face ultimate penalty is, as i said, dictatorship. It is no better than Saddam. Frankly, i say fuck that.
You totally missed the point. Christianism is NOT about judgement! You don't need to follow the Law and there is no threat from God abpout anything related to worship at all! You were totally mislead by the Catholic church. This is how it really works:
To get into Heavens, you need to accept Christ. Why? Christ is a greek word that means "anointing" and in this case it means "being full and overflowing with the Spirit of God. So when you accept Christ you your heart, ALL your sins of your past AND those of your future are totally washed away, because now
God lives within you. This brings Him closer to you (much closer, indeed) and you become able to speak to Him much more easily. If you have some trouble speaking with Him, by becoming a Christian, you become more able to listen to Him.
Christians don't need to follow the Law. God advise them to do so, because if we follow the Law we will be blessed. That's because the Law still influences our lifes, but NOT our after-lifes. So whatever you give to others it will be given to you back. If someone gives you a present, you will probably give another present to that person, and the same the other way around. If someone shouts at you and hurts you, you will probably do the same thing back. That's the golden rule:
Matthew 7:12
"12 In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
The Catholics want condemnation, because that way they can get something from you. They use the Law in the same way the Pharisees used to use, when Jesus came. But the True Christianism does not condemn you, but it gives you the possibility of living your life in a greater and more meaningful way.
HIS words? Or the words of a shepherd? YOU quote human words. Obviously none of us understand anything written in the bible if it is the word of god. Like you said, who are we to even understand his wisdom? Look at the Old testament. Look at the stories of Noah, Moses, the creation and so on... All were written a millennium BEFORE your bible. YOU think you understand the bible when in fact you're just reading a poor translation of a completely separate belief. That, my friend, is an undeniable FACT.
The only fact here is that you had contact with Catholics before, and they weren't nice to you.
It's called Bollocks. Frankly you're not worth my time- you said yourself we're all just worthless little humans without wisdom. Once you find the courage to view yourself as more than just a walking zombie under fear of eternal damnation we could progress a lot faster.
I have no fear of eternal damnation. I'm not Catholic. And there was some wisdom given to me, but at least I recognize I'm not very wise. You don't seem to recognize the fact that you understand almost nothing about this universe.
Man if you could just stand back and view your attitude from afar you'd be ashamed. Everyone else is wrong but you.
No. You are being arrogant by saying that you don't need God to exist, while without Him, you wouldn't exist at all. That is what arrogance really is. You haven't stoped to see what you are telling me. But that's ok. You had past experiences with Catholics and that explains a lot of your views. But if you read in the Bible, you will see that the Catholics are totally wrong.
No wars are the direct result of a belief in god? No wars are carried out in his name? No blood and fucking destruction at the hands of those who claim to be right against others who also claim to be right? You're right, everyone else is wrong. As a result people die. Bra-fucking-vo.
Again, Catholics and condemnation. And also people that use God as an excuse to earn some money. Real Christians just follow the commandment "love one another".
That IS faith. Read it, read it again and again and again until you finally understand.
No. This:
Hebrews 11:1-3
"1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
2 For by it the men of old gained approval.
3 By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible."
.. is faith.
Lol. How arrogant and self righteous a comment to make.
It is YOU that deny the fact that you are imperfect, not me.