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Not if you're going to mistreat them.
Buffalo Roam
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And the air strike that it came from was control by, and carried out, by the VNAF, it wasn't done by Americans.
Plus one other little fact that you fail to recognize, it was done during a attack by the N. Vietnamese.
Combat was in full swing, ARVN against the NVA.
Like your suicide bombers, but the ARVN's had the excuse of being in combat, and not in a market of peaceful civilians.
Yeah yeah, its always the fault of the occupied people. Whether its Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. How many before the Americans went in? How many after they left? :yawn:
And thats the measure of a man. Anyone can be good when they are comfortable.
And thats the measure of a man. Anyone can be good when they are comfortable.
How many by migration?
Buffalo Roam
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Noble? This is noble?
Killing people who won't accept the oppressive dictator you installed is not noble.
Sorry, I think these are the actions of scumbags.
Napalm strike: the myth of Kim Phuc, the girl in the photo
Because it is a dramatic photo, but for more than any other reason, because the woman whom the little girl has become, went to the Viet Nam Veterans' ...
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Myth: Americans bombed Trang Bang, Viet Nam, and burned Kim Phuc, the girl in the famous photo.
Fact: As stated by the photographer himself, Nick Ut, and clearly shown on film, the Viet Nam Air Force (VNAF) dropped the bombs that hurt Kim. This was witnessed and reported by UPI television correspondent Christopher Wain, and also reported at the time, by noted correspondent Peter Arnett. Other journalists who were not there, through assumption, sloppy work, or malice, have since reported that the attack was by US aircraft, and have further embellished the story with time. Most of the commercials for the recent A&E documentary, and indeed, the host on the broadcast, said that the documentary would show "the American commander who ordered the bombing". That statement is not true.
Myth: The bombers attacked the village of Trang Bang.
Fact: The fighters were actually striking outside the village, hitting the fortifications of the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) troops that had been prepared just before and during the three day battle. The village itself was not the target of the air strike.
Myth: Kim and her family were hurt when the Buddhist pagoda in which they took refuge was bombed, and took a direct hit.
Fact: Kim herself has stated that they left the pagoda, to run along the road, when they were hit. The pagoda was not targeted, and was not hit. The "colored markers" she has mentioned were smoke grenades, used to identify the friendly positions. When Kim and the others, including ARVN soldiers, ran from the pagoda and away from the village, they were spotted by the pilot of a Vietnamese fighter. The pilot saw people with weapons running toward the Army of the Republic of Viet Nam (ARVN) positions, where the journalists and photographers were also located. In a split-second decision to protect the ARVN troops from what he saw as a threat, the Vietnamese pilot diverted from his target and dove to attack the group, as reported by eyewitness UPI television correspondent Christopher Wain.
Myth: The fighting was conducted by or included American forces.
Fact: Trang Bang, in June of 1972, was an all-Vietnamese fight, with ARVN troops fighting their former and future countrymen, and requesting support from their own air force. American aircraft probably assisted with air support at some time during the three-day battle, but Vietnamese were fighting Vietnamese at Trang Bang, and when Kim was burned, it was they who called for help from Vietnamese flown aircraft. Even the photographer was Vietnamese, although he later became a US citizen. The only Americans involved were two advisors, one an infantry officer with the troops at the scene of battle, and the other in an assistant coordination assignment more than 80 kilometers away. Both officers were in positions with absolutely no command authority.
Migration is different from occupation. Putting natives in reservations to steal their land is not migration.
How many Vietnamese did the Americans kill? How many did YOU kill? How many women, children, innocents?
Buffalo Roam
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So even if the Americans's are guilty of everything that you claim of them, and I am guilty of everything you accuse me of?
Does that make it right? Moslems Killing Moslems, murdering Innocent Moslems, in the name of driving out the so called occupiers?
Does that make it right?
Moslems Killing Moslems.
Moslems murdering innocent people around the world?
So how many did you kill Buffalo? How many people are no longer living because of you? How many kids lost their parents? How many parents lost a kid? Do you ever look at your family and feel guilty for killing other people's children? Do you ever feel like a brainless twit for following your government's orders to go there?
There are things worth killing over.
Buffalo Roam
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SAM, you have killed thousand, by your thoughts, and words, murder starts with thought, and is encouraged by words, and your thoughts and words, are nothing but murder.
You hide behind your computer and cheer from the side line, one of the Circus of Islam.
I met my enemy on the Battle Field, weapon in hand, and was better then him.
You hide in Daddys Home, and cheer the bloody circus of Islam murdering Innocents, their own, Moslem Believers and the Innocent of every other people on the face of the earth, so:
So even if the Americans's are guilty of everything that you claim of them, and I am guilty of everything you accuse me of?
Does that make it right? Moslems Killing Moslems, murdering Innocent Moslems, in the name of driving out the so called occupiers?
Killing innocents who don't want to become Moslem?
Reducing them to second class citizen in their own lands?
Does that make it right?
Moslems Killing Moslems.
Moslems murdering innocent people around the world?
Buffalo Roam
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So even if the Americans's are guilty of everything that you claim of them, and I am guilty of everything you accuse me of?
Does that make it right? Moslems Killing Moslems, murdering Innocent Moslems, in the name of driving out the so called occupiers?
Killing innocents who don't want to become Moslem?
Reducing them to second class citizen in their own lands?
Does that make it right?
Moslems Killing Moslems.
Moslems murdering innocent people around the world?
Buffalo Roam
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For everything you have posted you still can't come up with a honest answer can you.
So even if I admit to killing 100,000 Vietnames? and even if the Americans's are guilty of everything that you claim of them, and I am guilty of everything you accuse me of?
Does that make it right? Moslems Killing Moslems, murdering Innocent Moslems, in the name of driving out the so called occupiers?
Killing innocents who don't want to become Moslem?
Reducing them to second class citizen in their own lands?
Does that make it right?
Moslems Killing Moslems.
Moslems murdering innocent people around the world?
Buffalo Roam
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Lost the debate, so now we change the subject? No.
So even if the Americans's are guilty of everything that you claim of them, and I am guilty of everything you accuse me of?
Does that make it right? Moslems Killing Moslems, murdering Innocent Moslems, in the name of driving out the so called occupiers?
Killing innocents who don't want to become Moslem?
Reducing them to second class citizen in their own lands?
Does that make it right?
Moslems Killing Moslems.
Moslems murdering innocent people around the world?
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Buffalo Roam
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When have I dodged my History?
I freely admit to engauging in open combat with the enemy, and coming out alive.
So even if the Americans's are guilty of everything that you claim of them, and I am guilty of everything you accuse me of?
Does that make it right? Moslems Killing Moslems, murdering Innocent Moslems, in the name of driving out the so called occupiers?
Killing innocents who don't want to become Moslem?
Reducing them to second class citizen in their own lands?
Does that make it right?
Moslems Killing Moslems.
Moslems murdering innocent people around the world?
Buffalo Roam
Registered Senior Member
The Rules of Sucessful Combat
1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly.
5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. [Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.]
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun.
7. Ten years from now, no one will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.
9. Accuracy is relative. [Most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.]
10. Use a weapon that works every time. [All skill is in vain when an angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket.]
11. Someday someone may kill you with your own weapon, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
12. Always cheat; always win. If you walk away, it was a fair fight. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
13. Always have a plan.
13.1 Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.
14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. The visible target should be in FRONT of your gun.
15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
16. Don't drop your guard.
17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees.
18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. [In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them].
19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.
20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
21. Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
23. Your best option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly.
5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. [Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.]
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun.
7. Ten years from now, no one will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.
9. Accuracy is relative. [Most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.]
10. Use a weapon that works every time. [All skill is in vain when an angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket.]
11. Someday someone may kill you with your own weapon, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
12. Always cheat; always win. If you walk away, it was a fair fight. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
13. Always have a plan.
13.1 Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.
14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. The visible target should be in FRONT of your gun.
15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
16. Don't drop your guard.
17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees.
18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. [In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them].
19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.
20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
21. Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
23. Your best option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
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