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that goes without saying but i have heard far more from the palestian side saying there actions can and do foster continued conflict almost never hear it from the israeli side

to bad the paledstinians still fire all those rockets without thinking of retribution?

i still think we should fire rockets back being they are so primitive and inaccurate.
 
the palestinian proposal for peace:

Gaza's Hamas rulers on Friday called on the leaders of Arab nations to drop their proposal for a comprehensive peace deal with Israel, and support the militant group's battle against the Jewish state instead.

About 2,000 people gathered at a Hamas-organized rally in Gaza, as Arab leaders convened in Damascus ahead of the annual Arab summit. Hamas was not invited to the summit hosted by its closest ally in the region.
 
and we get closer to peace :D
Hamas militants who recently returned to the Gaza Strip after training in Iran have a detailed plan for upgrading the capabilities of the rockets being developed in the Strip, according to senior Palestinian Authority sources.

A senior Palestinian source told Haaretz this week that members of Hamas' military wing smuggled blueprints and other detailed technical instructions into the Strip that will enable the group to develop rockets capable of striking at longer distances.
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The PA source was unable to estimate the actual distance that these upgrades will allow the Qassam rockets to cover, but said that the aim is to strike at communities north of Ashkelon, which is approximately 15 kilometers north of the northern border of the Strip.

Israeli security sources said recently that Islamic Jihad militants in the Gaza Strip have developed their own upgraded version of the Qassam rocket, with an estimated range of 18 kilometers.

Iran is investing significant efforts in trying to increase the striking distance of the rockets manufactured by Palestinians in Gaza.

The militants there have only a limited supply of Grad-type Katyusha rockets, capable of striking targets 20 kilometers away.

lets keep fire those rockets-that will solve the situation. they dont even attempt to hide their intentions.
 
will palrstinians be safe if there were no israelis? ...
From an ethnic cleansing extermination, yes; but it is already too late for the Negev Bedouins .

Israeli's extermination of that culture is already complete and only about 10% of the former population is still alive in the seven concentration camp "cities." Israel has forced the majority of Negev Bedouins into these camp/cities and the surrounding guards prevent most from escaping back to the desert. Some do slip out past the guards on moon less nights and try to live the old way in the desert: Subsistence farming with a few animals, but Israel routinely bulldozes their simple shacks into rubble and has been spraying their gardens with herbicide since 2002, so their number are also dwindling. (Some even “voluntarily” return to the camp/cities when hungry enough and their animals are dead from lack of grass. It is amazing how effective modern herbicides are.) In about 15 years more the "final solution" to the Bedouins occupying land Israelis want and are setting* in will be complete. - I.e. all the Bedouins will have fled or be dead.

Hitler was not able to do as effective job as Israel is doing on the Negev Bedouins; however, don't expect me to congratulate Israel when Israel’s “final solution” to the Negev Bedouins problem is 100% done. (Morally these exterminations are the same.)

I think it reasonable for the Palestinians to expect the same, especially as they, unlike the Bedouins, are throwing more than a few stones as their contribution to the chain of retaliations. It will take longer, as there are more Palestinians, and they have allies in other countries, but in 100 years or so the present policy of High Kill ratios, cutting off energy for water pumps, etc. may work as a “final solution” to the “Palestinian problem.” (Assuming, which I doubt, that none of their allies supplies them with a very-lethal, biological aerosol of a highly contagious agents first. If that should happen, it probably means the extermination of the Israelis. – Their low birth rate and lower numbers decreases the chance some genetic immune/ resistant Israelis will survive to repopulate.)
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*One of the new settlements unearthed ancient Bedouin burial ground, more than 5000 years old according to the Israeli specialists. But of course the Bedouins had no right to that land. - They had only occupied it for approximately 100 times longer than Israel has existed.
 
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its funny cause i dont hear any protest when palestinians talk about the extermination of jews.

guess its ok by you then. :rolleyes:

just like its ok with you they are shooting at a kinder garden :D


if you want to convince israelis to listen to you at least TRY not to be a hypocrite.
 
... just like its ok with you they are shooting at a kinder garden :D if you want to convince israelis to listen to you at least TRY not to be a hypocrite.
I think there is some right to resist seizure of your homes, without compensation and occupation of your lands, but regret mostly that the US facilitates this instead of following the ideals it claims about self rule, democracy etc. I.e. I wish that the resistance to these universally recognized as immoral and illegal acts were done by more peaceful means - economic pressure, instead of support, on Israel to not repeat Hitler's crimes against people essentially powerless to effectively resist.

The world was sadly too slow to react and stop Hitler, but learned nothing but to hypocritically say "Never Again" and stand by doing nothing to prevent the repetitions of the extermination of another people by a more powerful group.
 
so we resist the resistance!!!!
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so we resist the resistance!!!! ...
There at least a couple of ways, better for Israel. (I have suggested one, years ago, which would prevent 100% the rockets from killing even one Israeli.) Clearly peace and security is not the current Israeli objective. Extermination of two different peoples appears to be, but the Israelis did learn from Hitler not to try to do it too quickly. Unless to a people so cut off from the rest of the world and modern communication that no one will notice. - I.e. the Negev Bedouins are being more quickly exterminated than the Palestinians and few are noticing, certainly no one is acting, not even saying "Never Again;" but if they did, the only meaning it could possibly have is: "Never again will there be Negev Bedouins" or any restoration of their already destroyed culture. That culture began long before Abraham founded the Jewish one.
 
There at least a couple of ways, better for Israel. (I have suggested one, years ago, which would prevent 100% the rockets from killing even one Israeli.) Clearly peace and security is not the current Israeli objective. Extermination of two different peoples appears to be, but the Israelis did learn from Hitler not to try to do it too quickly. Unless to a people so cut off from the rest of the world and modern communication that no one will notice. - I.e. the Negev Bedouins are being more quickly exterminated than the Palestinians and few are noticing, certainly no one is acting, not even saying "Never Again;" but if they did, the only meaning it could possibly have is: "Never again will there be Negev Bedouins" or any restoration of their already destroyed culture. That culture began long before Abraham founded the Jewish one.


only palestinian are allowed to resist billy T?

always it should be israel that needs to find the "other" way while everyone agrees its ok the palestinian can bomb us all they like.

you are such a moron...why do you even bother?
 
...you are such a moron. ...
What is moronic is to hate so much that you prefer a 40+ year failed high kill ratio RETALITORY policy which does not prevent occasional Israeli deaths to a DEFENSIVE policy, which can shoot down 100% of the rockets using 40 year old technology, now sitting un-used in Israeli warehouses. I.e. the CIWS removed from Israeli warships for replacement by more modern versions, etc.

I.e. the DEFENSIVE suggestion I posted long ago to prevent any Israelis from being killed. Why do you prefer that some Israelis die? - Only to provide an excuse to kill 20 times as many Palestinians? Or is there some other reason I cannot imagine? I always answer your questions regardless of how silly most are. You never answer this basic one: Why let any Israelis die?

I am waiting for your standard name calling reply. Too bad you can not think of anything else with your mind so full of hate.
 
only palestinian are allowed to resist billy T?

always it should be israel that needs to find the "other" way while everyone agrees its ok the palestinian can bomb us all they like.

you are such a moron...why do you even bother?

i called you on this bs once already the israelis are not being opressed
 
so they are allowed to kill civilians?
Of course Israelis are allowed to kill civilians. But Palestinians who kill civilians are terrorists.

I thought you understood this basic democratic principle - Israelis are human beings, and deserve a homeland, even if it means taking it back off the people (read "terrorists") who've been living in it for a while.
 
Of course Israelis are allowed to kill civilians. But Palestinians who kill civilians are terrorists. ...
A slight correction is needed in second part:

"But Palestinians who kill civilians are just "inepted terrorists" as they kill far fewer.
 
Of course Israelis are allowed to kill civilians. But Palestinians who kill civilians are terrorists.

I thought you understood this basic democratic principle - Israelis are human beings, and deserve a homeland, even if it means taking it back off the people (read "terrorists") who've been living in it for a while.

thats the point. when a palestinian kills someone, hes a rouge terrorists who lost hes land or something. when an israeli kill a civilian, thats all the israelis fault.

sharp perception you have there.
 
Only in your humble opinion, I personally find your assertions a load of BS.

i'm sorry but being the the position of power is hardly being oppressed and trying to make that assertion make the person making look like a fool. are they being attacked yes persecuted yes but opression requires not being in a position of power
 
i'm sorry but being the the position of power is hardly being oppressed and trying to make that assertion make the person making look like a fool. are they being attacked yes persecuted yes but opression requires not being in a position of power

position of power? whats that? what power the israelis have when they are attacked on a daily basis while the likes of you excuse the palestinians for their actions?

is a position of power require someone to relinquish the safety of his citizens?
 
position of power? whats that? what power the israelis have when they are attacked on a daily basis while the likes of you excuse the palestinians for their actions?

is a position of power require someone to relinquish the safety of his citizens?

israel is the top miletary and economic power in the region. and i am not excusing palestinian actions i am saying there are reasons for why they are doing what they are doing and not buying into your bullshit region that they just hate israel. posistion of power you know like having an outside state controlling your infastructure and a huge gap in the level of weaponary. i'm sorry you that you don't like that i disagree with the notion that some how the israeli's by being jewish some automaticly means they are being oppressed you see i deal with reality and facts
 
is a position of power require someone to relinquish the safety of his citizens?
No. what is required for "the safety of the citizens" is:

(1) Ability to learn from prior failed policies, but for that, following is required:

(2) Intelligence greater than hate blinding rage.

Your case is especially sad as I have several times explained how ALL Israeli deaths could be prevented by modern (no make that WWII) technology

I.e. The CIWS which was removed from Israeli warships that is probably now sitting unused some warehouse, plus the integrated radar (like old US's "DEW line") to control almost immediate counter battery fire on the rocket launch site, the border mine field, with its adjoining "killer trained dogs" strip to catch any very lucky terrorists that make thru the mine field etc. - all very detailed in posts year ago.)

Too bad you would rather have a few Israelis die annually so you can kill many more of the "enemy" (women and children included, of course) in retaliations.
 
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