I am trying to break headway here with the physics of light and G-d and you ramble right on over it.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again… all science ideas came out of the Bible!
And, you published this garbage in a book? LOL! :bravo:
I am trying to break headway here with the physics of light and G-d and you ramble right on over it.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again… all science ideas came out of the Bible!
Anita Meyer said:the Bible didn’t just survive the Catholic Church word for word, the Dead Sea Scrolls hold testimony to this this fact. The Dead Sea Scrolls tells us exactly the same thing that our modern day Bibles do. These are 3,000 year old texts.
And you can say 'it' till you're blue in the face. Doesn't make 'it' science.
“ Originally Posted by Anita Meyer
all science ideas came out of the Bible ”
A flat out lie. Only in hind sight can you even hope to twist and turn to make the claim something was already in the Bible. No physics discoveries have been made by studying the Bible. Newton was a huge reader of the bible but he didn't get his understanding of optics from reading about the flood, he got it from doing experiments with prisms. Einstein didn't extract special relativity from the Torah, he got it by building on the work of Poincare, Lorentz and Fitzgerald. Then there's all the work which has been done by people who aren't even from a predominantly monotheistic religion, science isn't done just by people in the western world. China made huge advances in science long before they had had serious contact with the West. Then there's people like Archimedes, who lived before 0 AD.
Please point me to the section of the Torah which provides the Polyakov action and explains path quantisation. If you can't then your claim is false. If quantum field theory were already in the Torah thousands of years ago why did it take till the 1930s to be developed by an atheist, Paul Dirac?
By "addressed" I take it that's some sort of euphemism for "made fantastic claims that I failed to support when asked". In which case I agree.Besides if you backtrack in this thread, those that are reading will see that I’ve already addressed Newton, Einstein, and Pythagoras and many other religious people devoted to science and how their idea where linked to the Bible.
That would be a demonstrably false conclusion.We can only conclude that G-d has put the knowledge of His existence into every human being.
Evidence for Dirac's idiocy please.I know that the nature of genius is to provide idiots like atheist Paul Dirac with ideas twenty years later!
Bull.I don’t expect you to understand it, but maybe there are others who are reading that will catch on right away. In the realm of both “quantum theory and string theory” the Hebrew letters come into play.
One more time: the Kabbalah not the Qabalah. They are two different things.Since Qabalah
No he didn't.G-d used the Hebrew letters to create all things in existence.
I agree. I already consider your demonstrated ignorance profoundly shocking.if I revealed them it would shock quite a few people.
Stryder, the Manx cat is clearly showing a “loss” of information. This is not evolution! There might be natural selection at work here, but it is not creating a new creature since it is clear that it is still by all means A CAT!
There have even been cases where humans have spinal tail bones, and many stupid people believe that this is evidence of man’s primitive evolutionary ancestry from ape/monkey. This is not any sort of primitive reclusive genes, it is a structural deformity and variant of development. It is a birth abnormality which occurred during embryologic development. We know this because this appendage is not connected to the vertebral column as are the tails of other vertebrates. Additionally, the appendage is not even in line with the vertebral column. The appendage contains no bony structures as do the tails of all other vertebrates. It is not a “true tail“, it is a deformity. The most likely diagnosis for what appears as a human tail, is a skin remnant of the outer layer of the caudal region.
So if I'm to understand what you're saying: despite many of the original books having been left out of the Catholic Bible, and despite many of the remaining books having their content altered by various Popes and synods over centuries to conform with the required wisdom, it has nonetheless survived "word for word"? Ok, that makes sense: if I erase half of a document, that means it survives word for word??
The Dead Sea scrolls are still being "unscrolled" and deciphered. What's been recovered is some of the material, and a lot of it will probably never be recovered. What's been placed in the public domain is quite probably only a small part of the total material. To say they "tell us exactly the same thing" is another handy explanation, for people who don't want to look beyond their cozy little world, or beyond an image of JC on a piece of toast.
In fact, there is material in the Dead Sea scrolls that contradicts some of the accepted wisdom.
So "word for word", the current version of (what's left of) the original Bible doesn't agree with some of the scrolls that have been decoded. There is also still (probably quite a lot of) disagreement between various historians and language experts about the meaning, or the translation, of the scrolls.
Your bland acceptance of what looks like the "standard version" of history, is not scientific. You aren't even (as we say where I'm from) a scientist's asshole, lady.
Uh huh. I bet you can post references to this claim?The Dead Sea Scrolls tell us that there are NO LOST BOOKS OF THE BIBLE.
Besides if you backtrack in this thread, those that are reading will see that I’ve already addressed Newton, Einstein, and Pythagoras and many other religious people devoted to science and how their idea where linked to the Bible.
I consider our entire Universe a closed loop system.
It can be argued in all of science if we are truly inventing or discovering anything new! We are only reinventing, implementing and manipulating something that has always been in existence from the time of creation. In this aspect, we must realize that we cannot create something new, no not one thing, not even a new color in the rainbow! When we try and think of something that doesn’t exist we cant do it!
Yes we can do amazing things with what the creator has given us, but it is only G-d alone that creates out of nothingness. In realizing this, we must now stop and consider the notion of where humankind got the conscious idea and concept of G-d itself? Where did that initial “thought” come from?
We cannot solely assert that the idea of G-d was placed into our minds by early preachers or holy men, because that still leaves open the identical question of where the preachers got the idea from. One cannot come up with where the existence of G-d stemmed from. We can only conclude that G-d has put the knowledge of His existence into every human being.
I know that the nature of genius is to provide idiots like atheist Paul Dirac with ideas twenty years later!
But for the sake of the argument I am going to link my book page once again:
I don’t expect you to understand it, but maybe there are others who are reading that will catch on right away.
In the realm of both “quantum theory and string theory” the Hebrew letters come into play.
This is light physics, string theory and quantum physics all wrapped up in one nice big package for you! It is so simplified that even the layman can understand it.
Now I could go on to show all the mathematical play with numbers here
These numbers I save for myself, if I revealed them it would shock quite a few people.
Uh huh. I bet you can post references to this claim?
Does this explain why the Bible originally had dozens of versions of the gospel, and why there are only four in today's version? Do you know why the other versions were destroyed, and when this happened?
Is it because a 14th century Pope knew the Dead Sea scrolls would be discovered in the 20th century, and so it wouldn't matter how many Biblical accounts were "left out" of the "approved" Catholic version?
And you are quite sure the scrolls contain exact copies? The scholars haven't decided to release only those translations that "agree" with the Bible? There are no scrolls that cast any doubt whatsoever?? You've seen "enough" of the public domain translations, or copies of the originals to be convinced? That must be comforting for you.
Do you know how many of the Dead Sea scrolls are versions of the gospel of Jesus Christ? Can you explain why the Bible has only four of these, and do you know who decided on which four?
Originally Posted by Anita Meyer
Stryder, the Manx cat is clearly showing a “loss” of information. This is not evolution! There might be natural selection at work here, but it is not creating a new creature since it is clear that it is still by all means A CAT!
There have even been cases where humans have spinal tail bones, and many stupid people believe that this is evidence of man’s primitive evolutionary ancestry from ape/monkey. This is not any sort of primitive reclusive genes, it is a structural deformity and variant of development. It is a birth abnormality which occurred during embryologic development. We know this because this appendage is not connected to the vertebral column as are the tails of other vertebrates. Additionally, the appendage is not even in line with the vertebral column. The appendage contains no bony structures as do the tails of all other vertebrates. It is not a “true tail“, it is a deformity. The most likely diagnosis for what appears as a human tail, is a skin remnant of the outer layer of the caudal region. ”
Loss of tail or not, you have to take into consideration that it is the nature of genetics through ancestrial roots, it's not just some genetic disease and it hasn't caused the cat to die out because it couldn't survive ("Survival of the Fittest")
How about a simpler one that you shuold be able to understand "Immunities". If someone contracts chicken pox, for the most part once they get through it and survive it, they can be immune to it. (This obviously isn't always the case 100% of the time, peoples bodies are different and respond differently)
Why do you think the body gains an immunity?
Please show where I have demonstrated hypocrisy. Otherwise retract the statement and apologise.Q, you must be the alter ego of Dywyddyr. Both you and him have devoted the best years of your lives in preparing for these impromptu speeches. It has been the political career of you two men to begin with hypocrisy, proceed with arrogance, and finish with contempt. Nothing scientific here at all except for sewerage.
Pfft, secular, smecular.The thought she makes money out of that crap makes me despair for my (hopefully one day) off spring and makes me damn glad I live in a more secular society than the one she swindles.
She wanted to advertise her obscenely ignorant book, she has and I think she's not adding anything else.
Unfortunately idiots and crap are everywhere (and yes, I've been an idiot plenty of times), its just that almost always religious people don't even accept the notion of 'supporting evidence', they have 'faith'.It's not just the religious nutters that write crap.
Now while I could flatten Anita in any area of physics or mathematics anyone cares to name it'd be wasted effort since she's willing to ignore or lie about things even when presented with clear evidence against her.
Your claim all science has the bible as its source. Not only did you fail to support this its demonstrably false. For instance, I'm an atheist. Haven't read the bible, don't give a shit about it. I have published work, cited published work and thus, by definition, I've contributed to science. Nothing in my work I got from the bible, I did actual research, spending time and effort to come up with results others hadn't.I am still waiting for whatever this “clear” evidence against me is???
I think that's funny, coming from the woman who called a Nobel Prize winner an idiot simply because he doesn't buy into the crap you did. If you have backbone try to get your work published in a reputable journal. Or rather than living in a world of denial about historical facts or the development of science try an honest informed discussion.Your posts have no more backbone than a chocolate éclair.
Why would god need to pick the rib bone, he's fucking god, he could pick any bone (or not) from Adam and turn it into a woman, he's god.In fact the rib bone is the only bone in the entire human body that has the capability of regenerating itself.
Citation needed.science has discovered some very unique characteristics about the rib bone… it has the miraculous ability to “regenerate” itself. In fact the rib bone is the only bone in the entire human body that has the capability of regenerating itself.
The entire point of bone marrow is to make blood cells, there's nothing special about the rib in that regard.sNot only are the ribs filled with marrow, but this marrow contains “stem cells” that manufacture the body’s red and white blood cells, which are then recognized and excepted by the body. These white blood cells protect against disease and the red blood cells bring oxygen and nourishment to the body and remove waste products. Many of us that are familiar with “stem cells” know that they have the amazing capability to develop into many different cell types in the body. They have the choice (directed by the necessity of the body) to either remain a stem cell or become another type of cell with a more specialized function, such as a red blood cell, muscle cell, or even a brain cell if need be.
And yet none of that was extracted from the bible, it was all 'reinterpreted' after modern science had worked it all out. And the quran has similar 'reinterpretations'. Any lengthy book on such vague things can be reinterpreted, as I demonstrated by my comment about The Silmarillion, which you failed to grasp, thinking I believed it more than the bible. No, both of them are works of fiction in my eyes, but at least one of them doesn't preach words of hate and advocated such things as slavery. Can you guess which one?I think its quite ironic how a nearly 4,000 year old book knows about bone regeneration and stem cells. Just though you might want to know that.
Our very materialism of our auto immune system contains memories that go back to the creation of the first man and woman (Adam and Eve).
For example, our body meets a viral organism for the first time
How does it know this? It knows this because at some point in time, an ancestor (distant relation, Adam and Eve) met the virus and learned how to deal with it in the sence that the geno switch was turned back on, and that memory is there forever in our software.
This is not something that evolved over time. There is no assimilation in terms of evolution. The information has always been there.
When our body gets introduced to a new virus or bacteria and cant fight it off, that is attributed to a “loss of information”, if our switches were turned back on we would be able to fight it off. Just like those bacteria that can adapt to antibiotics - their switches with the information has been turned on. The same thing with a skink (somebody said in this thread) when they loose their legs, scientists reintroduce these genes (switching them back on) and they can now grow their legs back.
Another good example of this “switch” and genes that have been turned off is the AIDS virus. Did you know that some people are immune to getting the AIDS virus.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/06/gene-editing-co/
Now some might pose the question, why would G-d pick the rib bone from any other part of the human body to make another human being?
So why did G-d choose a rib?