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The Palestinians can make any state they want. Its their land.

ps: the Baron is right, the Palestinians own nothing, they have no title or deed and even in the middle east property must have title and deed to prove ownership.

Not as a people, you don't. No one in 1947 had "title" and "deed" to their country. They got their countries because they are its native peoples. You only think like that because you took the land of the native Americans.
 
You only think like that because you took the land of the native Americans.

STRAWMAN.

No, he didn't because he wasn't born yet and america was not a country. by that reasoning then the millions of immigrant living in america took the land from native americans as well. that is preposterous. we can say the same about any country.
 
Yeah, just like them. I can still disagree with the slavery system and prefer the Chinese model. They don't have to.
 
Yes, the Arabs are so fond of the Iraqis:

http://iraqsolidaritycampaign.blogspot.com/2008/10/defend-iraqs-palestinians.html

10.10.08

Palestinians in Iraq

Since the invasion and occupation of Iraq began in 2003, Iraqs Palestinian population has been made a target by death squads, with rogue militias seeking to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians from Iraq.

This is being carried out by a variety of movements, which were abscent from Iraq before the occupation began and the recently established "Iraqi Government" have since been reluctant to provide Iraqs Palestinians with either protection or security.

Yes, the Arabs States are really worried about Palestinians.
 
Its not the "Israelis" land. Being a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, pagan, atheist, does not give you any right to someone else's home or country. Dispossessing them and eliminating them to make your fantasy religious state by ethnic cleansing is just wrong.

I thought you said earlier that you favoured a "love it or leave it" option on societal norms?
 
Where did you get that? Of course they are occupying them.

Then why aren't you BAMing about the Chinese Occupation and ethnic cleansing of Tibet, and displacement of the Tibetian?, or is it your bigotry against the Jews that has you only BAMing against Israel.
 
Where did you get that? Of course they are occupying them.

But you prefer their system of Occupation:

I'm not concerned with the Chinese since the slavery system under the Dalai Lama is unpalatable to me, I prefer the socialist Chinese system.

If it isn't Palestinians, its all all is OK with you.

SAM you are a absolute anti-semite, a real racist bigot, so the only ones up for critisim in your eye are the Jews, only they come in for your condemnation, as long as it doesn't invlouve the Palestinians you have no problem with ethnic clensing, be it Tibet or Sudan.

As long as it's India isn't on the recieveing end, or if its Chinese, or Muslims, you see no problem.

Arab militia use 'rape camps' for ethnic cleansing of Sudan ...
May 29, 2004 ... It is also clear that rape by Janjaweed militias, the Arab soldiers intent on " ethnic cleansing" in the black African-dominated region of ...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/su... - Similar pages

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...rape-camps-for-ethnic-cleansing-of-Sudan.html

By Benjamin Joffe-Walt
Last Updated: 6:01PM BST 29 May 2004

"In the evening, the Janjaweed attacked. The area was full of crying from every direction, and shooting," says Ilham Isaak Abakker Abdullah. Aged 13, and light-voiced, she wears a pink dress and scarf and hasn't shown her face in weeks. "I saw many people killed, then I was grabbed by two men on horses wearing Sudan army uniforms."

My local translator stops, no longer willing to delve into her story. "She is only 13," he says, and walks away. Tentatively, she continues talking to me in Arabic: "They tied me to a tree and raped me all night. I became very ill and fell down. They thought I died, so they left me."

Unable to walk and barely conscious, Ilham crawled out of the "rape camp" near Funu, in northern Darfur, where she was being held. "I was very lucky," she says. She found a relative nearby who carried her just over a mile to a donkey, and they rode together a few hours to Abu Lehah, a village that has become a safe haven for the survivors of this secret rape camp. "I was unconscious and stayed there 16 days," she says. Ilham then set out on a 125-mile trek south to Bahai in Chad, where she eventually found medical help.

Yes SAM if it is a Muslim doing the Ethnic Cleansing and rapeing you see no evil.
 
I prefer the Chinese system to the Dalai Lama's. If the Chinese were starving the Tibetans and shooting rubber bullets in their kids' eyes, I would have issues with that. To me, the victim's status is most important. To the average Tibetan, the Chinese occupation is a relief from debt and slavery, its only the monks who were stripped of their power. To the average Palestinian, Israel is cancer.

As for Sudan, you should look at these "Arabs" sometime. You'll be surprised. And you can find my arguments on Sudan on sciforums.

None of which of course, has anything to do with the fact that Israelis are starving children to the extent of physically and mentally stunting them. If you have kids or grandkids, try it at home and tell me what you think of it.
 
I prefer the Chinese system to the Dalai Lama's. If the Chinese were starving the Tibetans and shooting rubber bullets in their kids' eyes, I would have issues with that. To me, the victim's status is most important. To the average Tibetan, the Chinese occupation is a relief from debt and slavery, its only the monks who were stripped of their power. To the average Palestinian, Israel is cancer.

You tell that the a Tibetan. Tibetans don't want a return to feudalism there asking to self-determination and freedoms, and yes they are in fact being arrested and prosecuted by the Chinese, even the Dalai Lama has disregarded the Tibetan feudal system and has called for statehood in a free china as the ideal goal. Just because you did not like their old system you can't say on one had the the Palestinians should have self-determination and on the other hand say the Tibetans should not.

None of which of course, has anything to do with the fact that Israelis are starving children to the extent of physically and mentally stunting them. If you have kids or grandkids, try it at home and tell me what you think of it.

Or it could be because the Palestinians are poor and poor children tend to be malnourished.
 
I prefer the Chinese system to the Dalai Lama's. If the Chinese were starving the Tibetans and shooting rubber bullets in their kids' eyes, I would have issues with that. To me, the victim's status is most important. To the average Tibetan, the Chinese occupation is a relief from debt and slavery, its only the monks who were stripped of their power. To the average Palestinian, Israel is cancer.

As for Sudan, you should look at these "Arabs" sometime. You'll be surprised. And you can find my arguments on Sudan on sciforums.

None of which of course, has anything to do with the fact that Israelis are starving children to the extent of physically and mentally stunting them. If you have kids or grandkids, try it at home and tell me what you think of it.

And the Palestinian Government spend most of it's money on weapons and a totally stupid war instead of building a country that can support and feed it's children.

It is the Palestinians own fault that they buy weapons to attack Israel and then Israel closes the border.

If the Palestinians didn't continue to smuggle weapons in to attack Israel, Israel wouldn't close the border.

It is the Palestinians choice and they have two, buy weapons to fight Israel.....Buy food to feed the Children, which makes more sense?

Continue a War that every time you shoot at the Israelis, they close the borders and retaliate and you get more children starving and dying?

Children Starving-----Stop the War use the money to Feed the Children.

It is the Palestinians choice, and they are the ones making the choice.
 
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When your children are targets you need to keep them alive before you can think of feeding them. Even a dumb animal knows that.
 
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