Moderator bias

I, personally, feel I have been unfairly treated by the following moderator(s):

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I can see why you find it funny.

Personally, I've always wanted to start a thread where us 'bad' posters can compare the number of infractions we have, and see who wins. It ought to be a blast. :)
 
my criteria for my vote was reversed infractions.
the fact that they were reversed tells me they were issued for something other than a legit reason.

i have received other reversed infractions but for the life of me i cannot remember who issued them.
 
S.A.M. said:
Whine, whine, whine.

Its astonishing how people who are willing to dish it out feel they should be immune from accountability.
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oh my god! :eek:
you? saying something like the above quote?
you really have the brass doncha sam?
i remember some dialog me and you were having about "travesties" of the FBI.
you made accusations and i asked you to provide evidence of your claim.
you essentially told me you didn't have to provide any.
spidergoat and james knows all about your stance on accountability sam.

what do you make of sams quote james?
 
Trolling in the open government forum is even worse form, but I see it didn't stop you from posting. How have you been by the way? Nice to see you. Good of you to vote for me!

Everyone... vote for me!
 
SkinWalker said:
You truly are a killjoy.
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hello Mr skinnywalkers
I hate to advise you of this Mr Skinny walkers but that means you are the worst.

More votes the more crap you are!!!!! Not the other way round.

Techinically the Amzing one is winning.

her take on the Shorty situation was truely amazing IMO
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Take it ez
zak
 
The poll has now run for a week. The results are in.

Of 35 voters in total, 19 (54%) say they have not been treated unfairly by any moderator.

In the case of Zakariya04, either all the moderators bear a personal grudge against him (which I feel is unlikely), or we can safely discount his votes. We can also probably discount Skinwalker's own complaint against himself.

That leaves the following number of complaints about various moderators:

Skinwalker: 8
Avatar, James R: 3
(Q), SAM, spidergoat: 2
Absane, Cris: 1
Athelwulf, Bells, Fraggle Rocker, invert_nexus, kmguru, Pete, Stryder, superstring99, Tiassa, Tristan, vslayer, Plazma Inferno!: 0

The number of people with gripes is 13. Of these, the number of moderators who they say have treated them unfairly is:

Unfair treatment by 1 moderator only: 8
Unfair treatment by 2 different moderators: 3
Unfair treatment by 3 different moderators : 2

Of the votes for 1 moderator, these are spread fairly evenly across different moderators. Votes for 2 or more moderators do not nominate the same 2 or more moderators.

Now, I would like to hear comments from members on these results. Do we have an endemic problem with moderator bias at sciforums, or not?

To me, it looks like the vast majority of sciforums members didn't feel the need to even answer the poll. Of those who did vote, half have experienced no unfair treatment. That leaves only the few individual complaints.

We might also examine whether or not the responders who have complained have unblemished posting records, of abiding by sciforums posting guidelines. If not, we might inquire into whether some posters might bear a grudge against one or more moderators, rather than have a legitimate complaint.

But perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree.

So, do we have a problem? Or are the cries of endemic moderator bias we usually hear from posters who have just received an infraction for their posts largely overblown?

Opinions please.
 
hmmmm . . . .
well for starters the mods themselves answered the poll, which i feel could have skewed the results.

another thing is that the rules here are almost never followed to the letter.

third is these mods know that nothing is going to happen to them or you wouldn't have the banter like between avatar and sam.

fourth is there is NOTHING in place to correct mod misuse of power.

fifth is this whole deal of shorty and the infamous sock puppet.

sixth is that you, james, MUST put something in place to check errant mod behavior. you cannot possibly expect these mods to be gold plated 24/7.

seventh is skinwalker. i have personally seen a definite improvement in the way he does "business" but it certainly isn't reflected in the poll results.

eight. you most certainly have a mod problem when a mod gives an infraction and says:
spidergoat said:
Any complaints about this infraction will result in an immediate ban of indeterminate length.
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even invert agrees with me on this one.
 
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Well I have zakariya, shorty and mountainhare;

The major instance of moderating mountainhare is language; chiefly posting violent or abusive language either against other posters or <insert group here>; for this he received several infractions and upon reaching the jackpot (20 points) within a time frame (as points expire in 10 days) was banned.

Some of his posts have been deleted so cannot be viewed:

Others are

1. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1503740#post1503740

2. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1501032#post1501032

3. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1485392#post1485392

4. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1417006#post1417006

5. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1406269#post1406269

6. http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1343059#post1343059


Not all the infractions were given by me.


shorty, on the other hand, I do not recall issuing any warnings or infractions. Instances of moderating were limited to deleting trolling posts in Biology and Genetics; however, in view of her post history, I believed them to be inadvertent rather than deliberate, so I have never issued any warnings or infractions.


Zakariya is probably still smarting from the spanking I gave him for his incessant good behaviour.
 
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S.A.M. said:
Well I have shorty and mountainhare;

The major instance of moderating mountainhare is language; chiefly posting violent or abusive language either against other posters or <insert group here>; for this he received several infractions and upon reaching the jackpot (20 points) within a time frame (as points expire in 10 days) was banned.
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like you never used abusive language on any of your anti american tirades.

i also noticed james never addressed the issues you have with accountability.
 
James R said:
The poll has now run for a week. The results are in.

Of 35 voters in total, 19 (54%) say they have not been treated unfairly by any moderator.

In the case of Zakariya04, either all the moderators bear a personal grudge against him (which I feel is unlikely), or we can safely discount his votes. We can also probably discount Skinwalker's own complaint against himself.

That leaves the following number of complaints about various moderators:

Skinwalker: 8
Avatar, James R: 3
(Q), SAM, spidergoat: 2
Absane, Cris: 1
Athelwulf, Bells, Fraggle Rocker, invert_nexus, kmguru, Pete, Stryder, superstring99, Tiassa, Tristan, vslayer, Plazma Inferno!: 0

The number of people with gripes is 13. Of these, the number of moderators who they say have treated them unfairly is:

Unfair treatment by 1 moderator only: 8
Unfair treatment by 2 different moderators: 3
Unfair treatment by 3 different moderators : 2

Of the votes for 1 moderator, these are spread fairly evenly across different moderators. Votes for 2 or more moderators do not nominate the same 2 or more moderators.

Now, I would like to hear comments from members on these results. Do we have an endemic problem with moderator bias at sciforums, or not?

To me, it looks like the vast majority of sciforums members didn't feel the need to even answer the poll. Of those who did vote, half have experienced no unfair treatment. That leaves only the few individual complaints.

We might also examine whether or not the responders who have complained have unblemished posting records, of abiding by sciforums posting guidelines. If not, we might inquire into whether some posters might bear a grudge against one or more moderators, rather than have a legitimate complaint.

But perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree.

So, do we have a problem? Or are the cries of endemic moderator bias we usually hear from posters who have just received an infraction for their posts largely overblown?

Opinions please.
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pointless poll since complaining will get you no where except trolled.
 
James R said:
Opinions please.
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My opinion is that discounting the observations of the maltreatment of others makes me question the validity of this poll altogether.

James R said:
The point of not including complaints from others in the poll is that it is very easy to kick up a fuss when you have no personal stake in the outcome. I often see unaffected posters jumping on the bandwagon when a moderator is criticised. It's almost trendy to do that. So, I'm trying to gauge real concerns, and not just rent-a-crowd concerns.
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"Rent-a-crowd concerns"?
It is comments such as that which makes people not bother responding to polls such as this, because the realize that their concerns do not amount to much (if anything at all) in the eyes of the administration here.

Allow me to paraphrase...
"If people complain a lot, it is because they are full of shit, and their complaints are not valid. Let me make a poll to prove your complaints are not valid."

Were the white people who complained about slavery just jumping on the bandwagon because they had no personal stake?
Without men voting for it, women would not have the vote.
Were the complaints of those who spoke out about mistreatment of Jews in Nazi Germany invalid?

Extreme examples? Of course, but I am trying to make a point.
Speaking up for what you see as unfair treatment is discarded as a joke because, supposedly, you have no personal stake in the outcome.
Bullshit attitudes like that is what upsets people here, and what keeps them from complaining, because it will get them nowhere.
 
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