That makes sense, in an infidelly sort of way.:m:
Moderate Faith vs Pure Atheism: Society
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That makes sense, in an infidelly sort of way.:m:
Apart from provided the very basis we base society off of, nah
Nope. Unless of course, you live in a Muslim state.
Yeah, right. That bit of nonsense is the best you can come up with? Faith promotes tribalism and ignorance, so you're dead wrong there, pal.
And somehow, that's supposed to be the one thing faith has accomplished for society.
Heewack! :bravo:
And secondly, to eat young children while throwing nuns into the river.
Indeed, bring out the 7 year olds for my pleasure.
The science is hitting the presses as we speak.
oke:Its all utilitarianism practiced by atheists in less religious societies who think evil does not really exist.
The "secular" societies run by amoral atheists depend on a large poor population to support their materialistic comforts. So its no surprise that such societies "overlook" the effects of their support for conflicts that destabilise and destroy such fedgling communities. That they are mostly religious is just an added bonus.
Then you need to look again; there is no doubt that, for instance, Christianity has played a MASSIVE role in the development of Western society, and to this day things such as the calendar, symbols, pledges and doctrines, as well as architecture and simply social order, is borrowed heavily from traditional Christian society.
Faith is faith, it doesn't promote anything.
Firstly educate yourself on the massive roles faith has played in the development of Humanity, because it most certainly has and only a fool would deny that.
Religious societies depend on religion being a substitute for a fair distribution of wealth. You'll get yours in the afterlife, so why demand it now? What's wrong with the material anyway? The most successful churches in the USA preach that getting right with Jesus will bring you material success in this life.
Probably used the poor buggers as experimental models.:shrug:
Is that a reasoned argument? I can't tell, being all delusional and such like.
Per se, nothing. But utilitarians are willing to let people die for it. Since there is no evil. Survival of the fittest and all that.
Nothing is wrong with material, I am simply saying that a spiritual aspect is also necessary for a healthy society. I have seen very few nonreligious atheists promote spirituality.
Faith is also a beacon of goodwill, at least some of the time, things such as giving to charity, being of good moral character, etc, are promoted
I suppose the main problem with atheism is firstly, the lack of spirituality, secondly, the emphasis on nongreater callings (which means, people care only for tv and money, not their nation and their family and honor), and lastly, is the complete lack of any sort of real spiritual value
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As an atheist, I have never had any of the above associated with me.
Well there was the time Q called me a crazy housewife, or something of the like.
Hmmmmm..
Anywho, do you associate aggression, suicide and lack of self control with atheists only? Is that the box we happen to belong in?
What of theists who suffer from the same? What of theists who have no self control and harm others as a result, are aggressive and do suffer from suicidal tendencies? Or are they simply abnormal? While atheists who happen to suffer from those issues are considered normal because they are atheists?
As an atheist, I have never had any of the above associated with me.
Well there was the time Q called me a crazy housewife, or something of the like.
Hmmmmm..
Anywho, do you associate aggression, suicide and lack of self control with atheists only? Is that the box we happen to belong in?
What of theists who suffer from the same? What of theists who have no self control and harm others as a result, are aggressive and do suffer from suicidal tendencies? Or are they simply abnormal? While atheists who happen to suffer from those issues are considered normal because they are atheists?
Clearly these are closet atheists.
I think he said emotional housewife, which of course, shows his progressive rational approach to sexism and feminism.
Atheists may believe in the quality you call evil. Social Darwinism is an anachronistic concept and unscientific.
Religions create dogmas that lead to death, you have no cause for pride in this area. There were those people that let their kid die for religious reasons, the burning of witches, suicide bombers that believed they would be rewarded in heaven...
Ah but the motivation was not to "let them die", unlike the cold blooded manufacture of death by "secular" societies.