Moderate Faith vs Pure Atheism: Society
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Speculation!
Yes, but that speculation is based off of what I've seen of atheist thinking.
You can see thoughts? how unique.
I somewhat agree with her, as with atheism there is nothing to specifically SET common ground for the people, whereas with religion family is very important and overall goodwill
Another thing: with a moderate form of faith in society comes a good form of goodwill and overall kindness and optimism, not necessarily seen in atheist communities.
Stats man stats!
It is possible that humans are still not sufficiently advanced to deal with reality without some stabilizing metaphor like religion. I don't recommend atheism for society, or even for other people. But that says nothing about the ultimate truth of religious concepts. People might be just as happy under the influence of some hypothetical perfect drug - soma.
Knowledge of reality isn't always a blessing. For instance knowing that the Earth is periodically bombarded by rocks miles wide could fill you with anxiety.
It associates with religion. Again, the reason I think a moderate form of faith is beneficial is because of all of that, because of the values it promotes, because of the enhancement to culture and society and unity and common ground, because of the hope and optimism, and because it's part of Humanity. It just makes no sense to destroy it, because that's one step closer to pure expansionist, capitalist, business-like thinking, which isn't bad, but it is if there is no longer any of what I just described.
It isn't about religion creaming up what is there, because as I said firstly we dont' even know if there is or there is not a God, but it is because religion provides a concept to channel the spirtual side of Humanity, which just can't be done in atheist societies, and yet it's such a massive aspect of society; it is an enhancing aspect of society.
And soma..............well, the people of Brave New World were atheist
Not everything can be proven with stats. Simply what I've noticed, that the religious have more dedication to their faction, loyalty, percerverence, goodwill, optimism, a unity, and emphasis on good moral behavior
All officially athiest societies have high incidence of suicide, substance abuse, alcoholism, divorce and social breakdown. Most of them started recovering only after they stopped forbidding religious practice.
Please don't connect atheism to capitalism, they have nothing to do with one another. Religious people are engaged in moneymaking, they started it.
Above all, it doesn't follow that atheism wants to destroy religion or religious artifacts. It's not a religion, there is no "culture war". It's not one side against the other.
Above all, it doesn't follow that atheism wants to destroy religion or religious artifacts. It's not a religion, there is no "culture war". It's not one side against the other.
Remember, this isn't to debate whether religion is TRUE or not, but rather what kind of effects it has one society and the indivudal (in various forms, from nominal to extreme), how it impacts life (and how a lack or destruction of it would), and lastly, whether or not it is better than a purely atheistic, nonspiritual world.
Atheism is not opposed to spirituality. In fact Buddhists and Taoists are theoretically atheist (I know there are some exceptions). These are some of the most advanced spiritual traditions on the planet.
I am just saying the atheistic wouldn't mind such things as I've described and have nothing to ensure their dedication and contribution and goodwill toward society; that's what religion does.
And yes, I know they don't NEED it, but frankly I am not seeing it with atheists I've seen.
Besides, there would be such disregard for so much of Human history, it's a part of Humanity, and it should remain a part of Humanity, of who we are, of our identity. I am agnostic, but I think faith is here to stay, and should stay.
Let me see. Japan, China, Burma, Tibet, Sri Lanka?
I am understanding your point and you are correct; again, atheism does not mean there can't be spirituality, but what I am saying is that it simply isn't happening in what I observe of western society. The only reason atheists spring up is because all people care for is the media and the drugs and the money, rather than their country, family, honor, etc
That's my point; pure atheism is a breakdown with the current cultural trend.
Also Buddhists and Taoists are still RELIGIOUS. They are atheist because they do not believe in God, but they have their own set of beliefs.