Masturbation is for Losers

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Happeh:

You think I said that because I am bragging or proud, so, just like Snakelord, you are going to attack me, what it is that I believe, my self image. You are not going to attack the facts or the theory.

There are no facts. You've already admitted it's all in your head. And I'm not really interested in your "theory", since it seems to be based on nothing. There are no actual facts which support your theory.

I really believed people in general were intelligent. Realizing I am one of the few smart people breaks my heart. It is very lonely being the only smart one in a crowd of apes and baboons.

Or, maybe you're just deluding yourself, and really there are many people smarter than you...

Are you a comedian for a living? You say that like you have caught me in a lie. I told you and everyone else that what I had was my own investigations. That the common wisdom you believe is lies put out by people who wish to make you weak so you do not challenge them for power, status or money.

Happeh, I'm sure you sincerely believe what you are saying. At some point, I am hoping your intelligence with kick in, and you'll recognise that this is just an elaborate construction of yours, actually based on nothing but your overactive imagination.

I behave like a scientist is supposed to. I observe. I think about my observations. I reach a conclusion. If I see something that does not fit, I change my conclusion and try again. It has taken me years to learn what I know.

Yet you have nothing to show for it.

You are unable to convince anybody that you are right, because to do that you would have to be able to point to some facts which back up what you say. And there aren't any. Except in your head, as you said.

If you are serious, you must commit yourselves to years of study. Just like any other scientific inquiry.

But, you see, Happeh, I look around me and I am sure that 95% of males, for example, masterbate regularly. Yet I see no harmful affects from that. The rate of blindness, for example, ought to be much much higher if you were correct, but it isn't. Which suggests to me that no further study is needed.

Yes, people agree with various aspects of what I say.

Which people? What do they agree about? Does any reputable scientist agree that masterbation causes blindness, for example? Or are ALL scientists ignorant fools?

Here is how it works. I show you a picture. I point at the symptoms. I saw they are masturbation induced. I say I know this because of my expertise.

But nobody else can independently verify that what you say is true? That's hardly going to convince anybody, is it?

If I say the sky is blue because every morning the blue paint fairy comes out from behind a cloud and paints it when nobody is looking, will you believe me? I can point to the "symptoms" - the sky is blue in the daytime. I can say I know the blue paint fairy exists because of my "experience" and 20 year "study" of the paint fairy. So, do you believe in the paint fairy? If not, why should I believe masterbation causes blindness?

That means that no one talks to me about facts, they talk about my conviction. They don't attack my facts, they attack me and my conviction.

But you have no facts. Am I wrong? You even said it's all in your head.

I know it doesn't make sense. How do you think I felt when I realized I had been lied to from the moment I joined school? I first had to rid myself of all the lies that had been put in my head. Then, on my own, I had to figure out the truth that was being hidden.

I assume you're aware that paranoid, delusional people have exactly the same kinds of beliefs. They firmly believe the world is lying to them, and that only they have special access to the "real" truth.

Have you seen the film "A beautiful mind"? What did you think of it?

I don't think so. Of course the people I know might be considered delusional by the members of this forums. To me they are not deluded. To you they might be.

Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are other people who support your views? If so, who are they?

Can you understand why I want a second opinion, other than just your say-so?

Wouldn't you want to see if anybody else believed in the blue sky fairy?

Excessive masturbation is worse than excessive sex usually.

Interesting. Why?

I learn everyday. I change my theory all the time.
It sounds like you just change your theory so that it can always "explain" any conceivable fact. If your theory cannot be disproved, at least in theory, then it is not scientific. Did you know that?

I made the post of the Viagra study saying people will go blind. All the "scientists" here pretend like the post doesn't exist. So let me give you people imitating scientists another scientific study to look at. No it does not "prove" what I say. It corroborates what I say just like the Viagra study says.

A study which says Viagra makes people go blind is very different from a study which says excessive masterbation makes people go blind. Isn't it?

"Brains are metabolically expensive organs to develop and maintain, so looking for a trade-off there seemed obvious."

This finding seems unconnected to your masterbation claims.

Is there a connection?
 
There are tribes in Africa that eat the genitals of their dead because they believe it increases fertility.
 
leopold99 said:
doing a web search of dr pithick yeilded what you just posted.
my question is how does that say a person will go blind by masturbateing?

That study is about the brain, 3 feet away from the testicles, being affected by sex. The study you mention is a different one. It is about viagra. The viagra study does not say masturbating will make you blind. The viagra people want to hush up the blindness of course. They don't want anyone to find out their drug enables people to go blind. Think of the money they will lose when word gets out.

leopold99 said:
it does not mention anything about loseing limbs by masturbateing.

No it doesn't. This is a slow process. I think people want me to point them at an all inclusive report that says everything. I don't have that. I have bits and pieces that form a picture.

leopold99 said:
i found nothing to support your claim that masturbation causes blindness.and for you to say doctors are incompitent i agree some are frauds, some are quaks, and some only care about lining their pockets but that applies to all proffesions not just to doctors.

It is not just the doctors as people. It is the model of the body that the western medical theory is based on that is incompetent. So of course anyone useing that flawed body model will also be incompetent.

leopold99 said:
as for the masturbating question, yes it was personal but i believe 99.99% of the people on this board masturbate but like you they feel it a personal matter. the only reason i mentioned mine was to dispell your notion that masturbation causes blindness

you really need to work on your thinking. I can see 10 places you could have said interesting things or asked pertinent questions. You need to focus on what you reading, and verify that you understand all of the ramifications of what is said before you speak.
 
James R said:
Happeh:
There are no facts. You've already admitted it's all in your head. And I'm not really interested in your "theory", since it seems to be based on nothing. There are no actual facts which support your theory.


Impossible, blind and deaf. Clearly. There is no Authority or God that will give you permission to believe what I say. There is no study that says what I say. You can treat what I say as a brand new theory just developled. As a scientist, it is your job to investigate the theory and see if it holds water. Not complain because God didn't tell you it was true.

This is ground floor, right at the beginning, you are some of the first people to know, science. How can I be any more plainspoken than that. You can write you want evidence 1000 times. There is no god or authority. You must examine what I call evidence, the symptoms of the damage. Then you must either agree that I am correct it is caused by masturbation, or you must provide an alternative theory.

I am talking like I am speaking to an 8th grade first day science class, explaining how our first experiment is going to go. I did this process every week in chemistry and physics. I performed the assigned experiment. I didn't know what to expect. I looked at my results. I didn't know if they were right or not. Then I sat down and reached a conclusion. I was still in the dark until the instructor returned my paper with a grade on it. I really don't know what is wrong with you people.
 
James R said:
Happeh:
Or, maybe you're just deluding yourself, and really there are many people smarter than you...


It all depends on how you define intelligence. I am not a nuclear physicist. I am not a music prodigy. My definition of intelligence is taking information and putting it together to form an accurate view of what is going on. Most people simply can't be bothered. Maybe they are all smarter than me, but they are lazy. How can I tell their motivations? All I know is I see people that do not understand me. I assume that is because they are unable to.

James R said:
Happeh, I'm sure you sincerely believe what you are saying. At some point, I am hoping your intelligence with kick in, and you'll recognise that this is just an elaborate construction of yours, actually based on nothing but your overactive imagination.

You are a comedian! You are making me laugh out loud again. So now you know what is inside of my head better than I do huh? Are you by chance god, in disguise? ;)

James R said:
Yet you have nothing to show for it.

Foolishness. I have plenty to show for it. What you mean is I have not shown it to you. You should be careful in your speech or people will dance on your head.

James R said:
You are unable to convince anybody that you are right, because to do that you would have to be able to point to some facts which back up what you say. And there aren't any. Except in your head, as you said.

Now I am getting hysterical with mirth. How do you deal with continually trying people? Not one person in this forum has acted scientific and tried to follow anything I have said. All I have done, as I have written 10 times already, is deal with people calling me names, questioning my age or intellect or education, or trying to play power games with me.

I have posted one picture, and 3 scientific studies. That is it. Yet the geniuses posting say that is enough to make a thoughtful conclusion. If people truly believe that, then they are not scientists.

Maybe I should be quizzing people? How many of you that are giving me grief are actually employed as scientist, or have scientific training? If I am talking to a bunch of people who just happened to drop into a science forum, I am going to be disappointed.

James R said:
But, you see, Happeh, I look around me and I am sure that 95% of males, for example, masterbate regularly. Yet I see no harmful affects from that. The rate of blindness, for example, ought to be much much higher if you were correct, but it isn't. Which suggests to me that no further study is needed.

Sorry. I am bored. I have posted my story about how untrained people cannot see things they are not trained to see. It goes right over the heads of people and they keep complaining.

James R said:
Which people? What do they agree about? Does any reputable scientist agree that masterbation causes blindness, for example? Or are ALL scientists ignorant fools?

What is this? A real live intelligent and thoughtful question? I feel faint. Good thing I am sitting down.

If you, or any other genius here, would take the time to look into Indian Ayurvedic medicine, you would find they council against excessive sexual activity. No telling what else you might find if you know-it-alls looked into Ayurvedic medicine. But then, you guys do know it all.

So why don't you tell me what Ayurvedic medicine has to say about sex? Come on now. Don't be shy. You guys know everything. Now is your chance to shine. I expect a verbatim recitation of the Ayurvedic views of the consequences of sexual activity.

James R said:
But nobody else can independently verify that what you say is true? That's hardly going to convince anybody, is it?

ARGGHHHHH!!!!!! Nobody else can verify it until I train them about what they are looking at!

Can you run a TIG welder? If not, does that mean TIG welding is a figment of my imagination? Does it mean that what I tell you about TIG welding is all lies? Or does it mean that it is YOU that is ignorant about TIG welding? You would know nothing about TIG welding unless I or someone else trained you.

James R said:
If I say the sky is blue because every morning the blue paint fairy comes out from behind a cloud and paints it when nobody is looking, will you believe me?
I might. Depends on how convincing you are. I can point to the "symptoms" - the sky is blue in the daytime. I can say I know the blue paint fairy exists because of my "experience" and 20 year "study" of the paint fairy. So, do you believe in the paint fairy? If not, why should I believe masterbation causes blindness?

What can I say. You are playing a game. I am not. If you want to call me a liar, what can I do? All I can say is trust me. It is not up to me. It is up to you. If you want to trust me, I can show you. I don't understand your suspicions. What do you think I gain by doing this? No one does anything without a reason. I don't want your money or your property. Why am I saying all of this if it is not because it is true?

James R said:
But you have no facts. Am I wrong? You even said it's all in your head.

You keep saying this. Did you even bother to look at the picture I posted? I am getting the feeling that you just want to attack me. If you were truly interested, you could make a one paragraph post saying "show me this", or "explain this to me". There is no need for all this other junk. It is just an excuse for personal attack.

James R said:
I assume you're aware that paranoid, delusional people have exactly the same kinds of beliefs. They firmly believe the world is lying to them, and that only they have special access to the "real" truth.

This isn't a science forums. It is a psychology forums. Every single person talking to me has proferred their amateur psychological opinion to me. You guys need to go to a different forums for psychology, or you need to rename this forums accurately. If I knew this was all psychologists, I would leave. Those people are poisonous.

Do you know if I was as calculating and evil as the people responsible for your programming, I could make you dance to my tune instead? Those people have filled your head full of lies and attitudes designed to destroy society. This amateur psychology you are playing at is something that was purposefully given to the populace so people like you can go around inflicting casual hurt on others. When the entire society goes around casually inflicting pain as you are, eventually the society will disintegrate. You can see the effects all around you if you look. Go compare some movies of the 40's and 50's to movies of today. Back then, Americans were still people, still human. Now they are automatons, puppets, or they are crazy. Don't get me wrong. There are still good and healthy people. The majority of them are all going downhill due to the actions of evil men.

James R said:
Have you seen the film "A beautiful mind"? What did you think of it?

Never saw it.

James R said:
Wait a minute. Are you saying that there are other people who support your views? If so, who are they?

Damn! You must be the funniest guy I have heard of in a long time. Of course there are others with similar beliefs to mine. See the Ayurvedic response above.

James R said:
Can you understand why I want a second opinion, other than just your say-so?

No. I don't believe anyone but myself. A second opinion is just as much of a lie as a first opinion. I check anything that I feel is important myself. That is why I don't understand people here depending on an outside authority. I am not going to give control of myself to people who lie every other word.

James R said:
Interesting. Why?

Two reasons. Uneven pressure on the penis. The way the human body is constructed, or how it functions. Masturbation......makes the body work in a way counter to the way it is designed to work.

James R said:
I learn everyday. I change my theory all the time.

It sounds like you just change your theory so that it can always "explain" any conceivable fact. If your theory cannot be disproved, at least in theory, then it is not scientific. Did you know that?

This is a learning experience for me. I remember the first time someone said to me "I am learning all the time. I might change my opinion next week". I hated the man. Really. I respected him. When he told me that, just like you I thought he must be a liar or not the man I thought he was.

It wasn't until years later that I got smart. I figured out, by myself of course, why it was that he said that. I would explain it to you, but then I would be feeding your programming. That programming that says you should believe authority, instead of figuring out things for yourself.

James R said:
A study which says Viagra makes people go blind is very different from a study which says excessive masterbation makes people go blind. Isn't it?

Yes it is. Science is about correlation. You should know that. Masturbation is sex. Sex is sex. Viagra is for lots of sex. Viagra plus lots of sex = blindness. Therefore, there is a correlation between sex and blindness. The first sentence says Masturbation = Sex. So we can say that it is reasonable to conclude that Masturbation could be related to science.

In math speak that is

Masturbation = sex

Sex = sex

Viagra = Lots of Sex and blindness

therefore

Sex can imply blindness in some cases

Since

Masturbation = sex

we can say

Masturbation can imply blindness in some cases.

I should charge you guys money for showing you how to think like a scientist.


James R said:
This finding seems unconnected to your masterbation claims.

Is there a connection?

Seriously James. You are not suited for science. Your mind does not work in a deductive way. You would not make a good police investigator, or anything else that requires you to see the obvious and make a conclusion.

Go get a job as a janitor, or something harmless where someone gives you explicit instructions on what to do and think.
 
i don't buy it happeh. i don't know man.
i am sitting here rubbing my head trying to make sense of all you said and i can't.
everything you have said about the effects of masturbation is equaly applicable to intercourse.
i also can not resolve your statement that masturbation is the leading cause of death due to aids. there is absolutely no connection between the two. if a person stayed in his house all his life alone and masturbated there is no way he could die from aids. none. zero. nil. nada
i would like to believe that what you say has merit but i can't.
maybe you need to revise your theory.
aids is transmitted person to person not hand to penis.
if what you say is true then everybody would be blind, have aids, be missing limbs.
after reading your last post i got to thinking and the more i thought about it, well my original assesment stands
 
Ok guys. Since we are going in circles, why don't I show you what I consider evidence or proof? This won't mean anything to you. There are no experts telling you what to think or believe. It is just you, and the evidence of your own eyes. There is nothing but you, and your brain, to figure out or understand what is going on. Understanding this is what it means to be a scientist, not just mouthing the words.

The video in this link is evidence for the reality of Happeh Theory. You will scream it is not evidence because it does not say in big glowing letters "masturbation will make you blind and crippled". Nevertheless, it is evidence for my theory.

This video shows a Chinese man and a boy. They are both going to urinate. You will see the adult man walk up to the wall, lift up his left leg, then rest it on the wall. He then prepares to urinate.

The boy, who was preparing to urinate, stops and says "why to you always pee with your leg up on the wall". The man then proceeds to tell a story about why he pees with his leg propped up on the wall.

This video is evidence for Happeh Theory. The reason that the man puts his leg on the wall can be understood if you understand the Happeh view of the body. Which is really just my word for the Asian view of the body. If you are very observant, very clever, very thoughtful, very smart, the video will point you towards the real answer as to why the man puts his leg on the wall. The way to the answer is right there in the video if you can see it.

If you can't see the anwer that is being pointed at, are you blind? Or are you only untrained in observation and thinking? Are you blind to seeing the masturbation symptoms I speak of, or are you only untrained in recognizing them?

http://www.angrypenis.org/BlogVideos/SecretsOfLife/ShaolinEvilDead/Pissing.avi

It is only 7 megs if you are worried about the download speed or size. It is in XVID and MPEG 3. If it won't play for you, you need the XVID codec for your media player, or you need Media Player Classic or VLC media player.

PS: This video is an example of how smart people teach other people to be smart. If you feed people the answers, they way you all are demanding, they get lazy. They won't develop the ability to think on their own. They always want a boss. Just like a good slave.

This man cares about this boy and is teaching him in an extremely subtle way. You should be able to see it if the man expects the boy to see it.
 
leopold99 said:
i don't buy it happeh. i don't know man.
i am sitting here rubbing my head trying to make sense of all you said and i can't.
everything you have said about the effects of masturbation is equaly applicable to intercourse.

I wish I could help. If you cannot see the difference between a complete circle and a partial circle, you need someone else to talk to.

leopold99 said:
if what you say is true then everybody would be blind, have aids, be missing limbs.

What is a missing limb? To you, a missing limb means it literally is not there. Like a soldier in Iraq getting his leg blown off.

If you have a leg, but it doesn't work, what do you call it? I call it a bad arm and leg. That is how I phrased it. I don't know where you got the "missing limbs from".
 
geeser said:

That's it? Everyone that is certain to 100% I am wrong, but the only input they have is a smiley face?

I expected some excuses for why you cannot understand what is going on. Or some excuses about how nothing is going on. Or some yelling about how it is totally irrelevant.

Wow!

You ever notice how intelligent people, when faced with something they don't understand, declare their intellectual superiority and correctness, then run away so no one can prove otherwise?

Really. If everyone is as smart as they say, they should be able to view the video clip and instantly tell me what the man's lesson to the boy is.

What is wrong? Not as smart as you think you are? Hesitant to let me know I am right and that you do not get it? You should be hesitant. After the way you talked to me, when it comes out that I see the lesson in this video and you do not, I am going to crow from the top of nearest large building about how I was right all along and the troublesome people really didn't have a clue what they were talking about.

They have no observation skills. They have no reasoning skills. They have no problem solving skills. They know nothing about the interactions between human beings. They know nothing about body language and non verbal communication.

All they know is their books, and their little section of culture, in whatever town or city they live in.
 
I am going to crow from the top of nearest large building about how I was right all along and the troublesome people really didn't have a clue what they were talking about.

I would be very careful about doing something like that - mental masturbation could cause a cranial attack or brain replacement. :D

Happeh is what Happeh does.
 
Happeh said:
That's it? Everyone that is certain to 100% I am wrong, but the only input they have is a smiley face?

I expected some excuses for why you cannot understand what is going on. Or some excuses about how nothing is going on. Or some yelling about how it is totally irrelevant.
why do you think you are worthy of some evidence, to why geeser just put a confused smiley.
you've not supplied any evidence to back your assertions, why would you think your entitled to any back.

a thing can only be discussed, if it is meaningful, yours is most certainly not without factual evidence.
 
So predictable. Take what the person claims is there's, and make it sound like it belongs to someone else.

I understand it isn't to your liking, but facts are facts Happeh. I know you'll consider it an attack, evil and rude - and it will certainly give you the chance to attempt to defame my character some more for the next 30 posts, but if you spend 2 minutes in google you will see that people were making these claims centuries ago.

You really are scum Snakelord.

I shall add it to the list.

You are so full of baloney! I am not religious. I don't know any religious people. I don't go to church. I don't read the biblie.

Not once did I say you were or did.

Just like most of your other writings, that stuff is all lies or things you just make up because it sounds good.

Or perhaps you just didn't understand the post. It wouldn't be the first time.

Yep. Just like I said. You wanted personal details so you could use them to insult me.

It's strange how you regard everything as an insult while spending your entire time calling everyone else scumbags and whatever else you can come up with. I suppose people here give as good as they get. Suffice it to say my name has featured prominently in every post you've made after I decided there was nothing else to discuss. Why should I have to be insulted when I'm not even here? Is that how you do things Happeh, wait until someone isn't around so you can insult them? Either that or you just miss me a lot. Admittedly you have also tried the direct approach, and attempted to insult me straight to my face. While the insults themselves are not a big deal, it does smell of extreme hypocricy.

You are a snake, Snakelord. Your nick does psychologically describe you.

Well, you'd certainly know more than I would.

Keep telling yourself that

If you studied for a change we'd actually have nothing to discuss. You would come to understand that it is a scientific fact that there are no negative short-term or long-term medical health effects from masturbation. Seemingly you want sciences say on the matter, indeed you bring it up several times throughout your posts;

"How many of you that are giving me grief are actually employed as scientist, or have scientific training? If I am talking to a bunch of people who just happened to drop into a science forum, I am going to be disappointed. "

"Not one person in this forum has acted scientific and tried to follow anything I have said."

The fact is Happeh, that everyone here debating against you has done so from a scientific standpoint, and science does disagree with you. It would seem more peritinent that you request that people be unscientific and take your claims unscientifically. Upon doing so you might find some people actually agree with you.

The argument ends here because I exposed you as a mental health professional using their training to terrorize and abuse people on the internet.

What training did you undergo to be able to abuse people on the internet? Having been called all kinds of names and had my character defamed constantly since page 7, you must have been top of the class. Indeed you have done little other than attempt to defame my character, my profession, any other profession that disagrees with you and any other person that disagrees with you, (oh and not to mention even my entire country - that you claimed as all liars). You have spent ten times the amount of time telling us all what you think of a certain person or profession than you have actually talking about Happeh 'theory'. You then wait 5 minutes after doing so and then claim everyone has run away. The facts are right there for everyone to see, even you.

It is a disgustingly naive way of doing things, I can only hope this is some massive joke you've got lined up. If it is I say well done, you've done a grand job - if it isn't there's probably very little I can say without expecting another entire post from you dedicated to defaming my character.

Although the lemmings here cannot see it, we both know your brain is in a turmoil because I scored a direct hit.

I'll agree if it makes you feel better about yourself. Just one question: What 'direct hit'? As far as I recall, I provided you with the facts and left you with them, and you then complained everyone had run away and continued insulting someone that wasn't even here. Where in all of that nonsense was this 'hit' you speak of?

You don't see me playing word games for pages while refusing to participate in a discussion.

Thats is all you have done Happeh. Someone asks for evidence, you say scientists know nothing. Someone asks for your research on the subject, you say it's all in your head, someone asks you to explain what it is you see in that photo, you say it shows masturbation damage but then fail to explain how exactly - and then of course someone eventually disagrees because they are thinking scientifically, and you then take the opportunity to insult and defame them as much as you possibly can.

While that is your right, it might be contributing to all the adversity that you seem to have a serious problem with.

I plainly state that any honest and friendly person willing to think like a scientist investigating a new phenomenon will get full cooperation from me.

That's very nice of you, but there is a difference between saying and doing. The fact of the matter is that people here are being honest and 'thinking like scientists'. That is exactly why they disagree and ask for evidence. Like I stated earlier, state that you want dishonest, unscientific people and you'll find we all agree.

If they come at me like you, aggressive, hurtful, playing submission/dominance games

I must confess this is becoming extremely tiresome. It doesn't wash Happeh, and you know it. I have done everything to try and extract some discussion of worth from this thread, but you have made it impossible - not just for me but for everyone. James R for example has given you some sound questions that you have ignored - while instead taking it upon yourself to defame his character just like you have everyone elses. You also seemingly expect everyone to understand what it is you apparently see in these pictures and videos of yours, and yet refuse to explain it when people don't. You then go on to say; "I have posted my story about how untrained people cannot see things they are not trained to see", and so if we're all untrained, why provide pictures that we wouldn't be able to understand anyway without providing that training? And yet you don't. When people have asked, you tell them it takes years or decades and so on, in which case why do you seemingly get so frustrated when people don't see what you want them to? Of course aside from that we have all seen this glorious display of you pumping your ego up to it's very limits. I would say you almost have a Norman Bates personality to you - a man that has been told everything is bad and everything he does is wrong for so many years that his brain has had little choice but to supply it with a strong dose of self worth. Now you do the very unscientific and highly ignorant act of proclaiming yourself chief and master without exception, and at the expense of what is actually real and what isn't. Trust me Happeh, you are untrained and it would take years of training to understand, but I suppose we could come to some kind of a deal.. You train me all about your wanking expertise and I shall train you in how to understand humans - because right now you're doing a piss poor job of it. Does that sound ok to you?

It says I am too much for Snakelord. He has met his match and is abondoning the field in defeat.

If it helps serve your ego, and those underlying, unresolved problems of yours than I shall agree. Of course it could just be that you have nothing to say. In ten pages you have literally said nothing, other than defame characters and promote your own ego. There is nothing here of any value, just that. Of course that will change once you're actually more interested in discussion than attempting to show yourself as being better than everyone else. Don't get me wrong, you can be better if that's what you want, but then you might aswell just make your own 'worship happeh' website and be done with it. You are on a science website right now, and science is the issue. The fact of the matter is you have decided to stop by here without bringing any science along with you. I understand this is not a science subsection, but a religion subsection - but alas.. you've failed to bring any of that with you either. What exactly is left?

The amusing thing is that several times you've even expressed your hatred for both. When you misunderstood my post and thought I was implying that you were religious, you got all upset over it, claimed me to be a fool, and that your 'friends' would laugh. On the science side you have continually labelled anyone in a scientific field as a liar, trained to deceive humanity. With such blatant dislike for these things I can only question why you would even be here to begin with. Let me paint you a quick picture:

You come to a place full of people you don't like or trust just to tell them all that you're better than them.

I know you're untrained, but give some thought as to why you would do that.

You are just a hater trying to drag me down.

Yes, we're all haters. I suppose that adds to your reassurance that you're right and helps inflate that ego just a tad more. "Out to get me", is a GNR song that I think you'll appreciate. Give it a listen sometime.

I suppose the normal action when someone, (like myself), comes along and gives across such hate, is to add me to ignore. Instead of that you have mentioned my name 10 times in every post since my polite departure. It seems you miss me a lot more than you're willing to admit. I missed you too. Without you, how would anyone realise "it could always be worse"?

The fact of the matter is that you're on a forum pretty full with scientifically minded people. And there you are spouting the most unscientific nonsense since the claim that there was a big sky dome surrounding the earth. It comes as no surprise that you will find adversity and disagreement, and then to do the even more unscientific thing of proclaiming yourself as right, science be damned, is utter insanity if you are expecting everyone to follow you.

It's like standing in the middle of the Bronx wearing a sign that says "I hate niggers", (from Die Hard 3), and then wondering why people seem to have an issue with you.

You don't care about science, scientific inquiry or the scientific method.

The fact is you haven't got the slightest clue what science is, nor do you seemingly understand the 'scientific method' and thus are in no position to be making the statement you have. I am aware you wont understand any of this, so I'll just agree with you to help you feel better about yourself.

Maybe you should stop being a doctor and hire yourself at as a Dominatrix in the sex magazines.

Perhaps.

Yes it is. Science is about correlation. You should know that. Masturbation is sex. Sex is sex. Viagra is for lots of sex. Viagra plus lots of sex = blindness. Therefore, there is a correlation between sex and blindness. The first sentence says Masturbation = Sex. So we can say that it is reasonable to conclude that Masturbation could be related to science.

Did it ever occur to you that the issue might be with the chemicals in the pill, instead of getting a boner? Your way of finding correlations is so naive it's ridiculous. But wait, save I be defamed some more, you're right. Everything you say is spot on.

why don't I show you what I consider evidence or proof? This won't mean anything to you. There are no experts telling you what to think or believe.

I couldn't agree more. There are no experts telling us anything, just you agreeing that no experts will agree. You really know how to argue your value out of the discussion, I'll give you that.
 
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That's it? Everyone that is certain to 100% I am wrong, but the only input they have is a smiley face?

I expected some excuses for why you cannot understand what is going on. Or some excuses about how nothing is going on. Or some yelling about how it is totally irrelevant.

Wow!

You ever notice how intelligent people, when faced with something they don't understand, declare their intellectual superiority and correctness, then run away so no one can prove otherwise?

Really. If everyone is as smart as they say, they should be able to view the video clip and instantly tell me what the man's lesson to the boy is.

What is wrong? Not as smart as you think you are? Hesitant to let me know I am right and that you do not get it? You should be hesitant. After the way you talked to me, when it comes out that I see the lesson in this video and you do not, I am going to crow from the top of nearest large building about how I was right all along and the troublesome people really didn't have a clue what they were talking about.

They have no observation skills. They have no reasoning skills. They have no problem solving skills. They know nothing about the interactions between human beings. They know nothing about body language and non verbal communication.

All they know is their books, and their little section of culture, in whatever town or city they live in.
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M*W: Happeh, you've had your chance to prove your theory, but you can't. This is a scientific forum. You've been promoting your theory on masturbation in other forums as well. This being the religion forum, I don't quite understand why you are here. How is it that you associate masturbation with religion? On the politics forum, you brought it up over there. What does masturbation have to do with politics? Maybe you should head on over to the human science forum since this involves human behavior. You're beating a dead horse here.
 
Cowards.

Not a one of you big mouths watched that video and answered the challenge.

Just like not a one of you cowards looked at the John Spencer picture and offered an opinion.

I know your type. You can't lose if you don't play, right? You can only be proven wrong if you stick your neck out and try. So instead of trying, you run away. That way you can honestly look in the mirror and say you never lost. Because you never tried. I know how you think.

Not one person out of 15 or 20 with any idea of scientific method that a high schooler knows for his chem class experiments. Not one person with any courage or curiosity. I knew they were sabotaging the new generations to make them stupid, but this is mind boggling.
 
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You're beating a dead horse here.

Yes I am beating a dead horse. I have honestly had more luck with children. Teenagers have more curiosity and bravery than you lot. They had more understanding too. They actually thought thru what I said and asked pertinent questions that showed they understood what it was I was saying.

Your arrogance and cowardice will keep you ignorant of life's mysteries.
 
sorry , I'm having video problems with my computer, can we do the picture one again, I missed that.

personally, i think there must be some sense behind the different eastern ideas that say releasing seminal fluid is an energy drain, but, although I suppose it is conceivable that the right type of person under the right circumstances, with enough "draining" (ahem), could have some type of serious problem - it still has to proven, not just assumed, and right now, I have seen one good scientific proof that three times a day (give or take a few), for 53 years (give or take a few), hasn't caused vision loss.

Just because a person can masturbate AND have vision loss doesn't prove the causal relationship, and I still haven't seen anything about people who are blind in one eye - show me the money, happ.
 
personally, i think there must be some sense behind the different eastern ideas that say releasing seminal fluid is an energy drain

That would undoubtedly stem from the release of endorphins which very often lead to tiredness after orgasm. Although perhaps a personal opinion, I have noticed one interesting benefit of becoming tired after sex. As far as I can see, it aids with conception. I'm sure most have noticed at some stage, but if a woman stands up and starts moving around shortly after sex, sperm will eventually exit the body. If on the other hand the woman remains motionless, (asleep), there is less chance that this will occur - thus increasing the chances of her getting pregnant.

But yes, ejaculating can be a vast energy drain, not only for the reason stated above but because of all the work put in beforehand. Endorphin release is not known to be harmful.

I suppose it's worth asking Happeh to provide some more details concerning his claims. Mainly: Does masturbation without ejaculation cause the same problems or do they only occur if a person ejaculates. If it is the latter then he might be inclined to change his theory to state that "endorphins cause blindness in one eye".
 
Happeh said:
You can only be proven wrong if you stick your neck out and try.
happeh if you peruse this thread you will notice i have already stuck my neck out.

oh by the way, i can prove that churches are the cause of murder.
ridiculous you say?
everywhere you go check out the number of churches in a community, the more churches the more murders, but of course the two are not related.
it's a common statistical mistake to make that kind of comparison
 
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