Masturbation is for Losers

[leopold]

happeh if you are going to deal with america you have to realize that women are not lower lifeforms they are equals.

 

[Godless]

And yet nothing concrete from the over self inflated ego of Happeh's assumption.

 

[geeser]

The more I think of you, a mental health professional, using the knowledge they learned to help people, for hurting people on the internet, the more I am sick at the stomach.

You have been playing a game with me from the first page. I accused you of dominance games from the very start. You began lying from the first page, saying it was about information and not dominance.

All those constant demands for evidence was you employing your training in psychiatry in order to cause hurt to another person.

You are sick. evil. You enjoy hurting others. You can't see any of it because your mind is clouded by hate and evil. If you weren't so impossible, I might even say I felt sorry for you.

As it is, I kind of enjoy knowing that you will suffer for years before you finally wake up to the choice you have made. I will not be a total jerk. You can always change and work for good. That is what good does. Forgives.

But in the meantime, you are throwing years of your life away until you learn the lesson. I have no qualms at all about smiling and enjoying the though of you wasting years of your life suffering and living with hate and evil.

Have a good time!

I must say, if you make an assertion you must produce evidence for that assertion, else it is inane and baseless.
I'm sorry if you feel that, what you say should be taken as the total truth, this is a science forum.
any body with any sense would question the validity of your assertions if you dont or cannot produce evidence.
calling someone evil, just because you cant produce evidence, is quite honestly infantile.

 

[beyondtimeandspace]

Death is what you do.

 

[James R]

Happeh:

You guys are funny. I never said that excessive masturbation is not directly harmful. I said there is no scientific study saying this.

So, it's just a guess of yours, then?

Why do you expect anybody to believe you, if you have no independent evidence to back up your claims?

Excessive masturbation will eventually cause blindness in one eye, bad arm, bad leg. It can cause anxiety, heart attack, mental problems, stomach problems, asthma symptoms, deafness and a whole slew of other internal problems. It is the cause for most hip replacement surgeries in old people.

Really, Happeh, this just sounds nutty.

Please explain how masterbation can lead to the need for hip replacement surgery. What is the causal connection? Do you know, or are you just pointing out a correlation that you believe exists?

It is not a joke. Excessive masturbation can turn a person into a physical wreck.

What's "excessive", exactly? How many times a day? Or how many times over what period of time, in general?

For those with an open mind, ask yourself how many gay men die of aids at what age? Don't most of them die young? 30's or 40's?

Most gay men don't die of AIDS.

What would you say if I told you that I believe that excessive masturbation is one of the leading contributors to death by "AIDS"? What would you say if I said that the virus stuff is mostly a bunch of malarkey to sell drugs at 15,000 dollars a month to a vast population of homosexuals?

I'd say you're a bit nutty. Got any proof?

Take ADHD. When I was young, active children were healthy and rambunctions. Now active children are sick. And the corporations just happen to have a prescription to make the kid better.

Well, that's a whole other topic. Maybe you ought to start a new thread on ADHD.

Do you have anything else to add about masterbation? Any actual evidence apart from your own say-so?

 

[SnakeLord]

While this has certainly been an amusing endeavour, it is also somewhat tragic to believe anyone could be as misguided as you Happeh.

Firstly you make the grandest of mistakes by labelling the belief that masturbation causes blindness and so on as "happeh theory", when people have been making these claims for centuries. As a result of that it is not 'happeh theory', but someone elses assumption that has been passed down.

These claims most often stem from the religious community, that because of the sheer drivelling lunacy of their bible, are so anti-human that they will try to deny people the right to do anything. They dream up the most inane garbage possible in order to prevent others from living their lives - while not having the courage or conviction of their beliefs to ever show that it is an actuality. Of course then science comes along and shows, (that with every other belief the religious have held for two millennia), it is completely fallacious - but it doesn't make a difference. These fools ignore the facts and continue along their dangerous path of self delusion. Worse than that is they drag any naive young person along with them, and in the case of yourself, I can see just how harmful and costly that can be.

Although I didn't manage to find out your age, I can only hint at how even more tragic it would be if you've actually reached adulthood.

The fact concerning the matter is that you have nothing to say. I ask for evidence and you continually call me evil for doing so which not only reeks of astounding ignorance, but is a clear sign that you do not have any.

The myths concerning masturbation are nothing more than myths - with no grounding in reality. So, let's bring it down to facts - which ends your argument permanently, (although you never really had one to begin with).

Scientific fact: There are no negative short-term or long-term medical health effects from masturbation.

Your argument ends here. Feel free to ask for the proof, the evidence and it shall be provided. Do not worry that doing so will cause me or anyone else to label you as evil -that is not how science works.

Simply put, you are afraid of the truth, unwilling to consider yourself wrong - and with an ego like yours it is not surprising. We have all heard your views concerning yourself, and frankly they are distasteful at best.

I have given you ample opportunity, indeed I have asked some 70 or more times for you to provide the evidence to clear the matter up. Alas you clearly do not have any, (which you did indeed eventually state is due to your lack of "millions of dollars and a laboratory"), and as a result have found it pertinent to resort to calling me evil instead. While that is your right as an individual, it says a lot more about you than you probably want it to.

In conclusion: You are wrong. Everyone knows you are wrong, even you. Alas you will still try to justify that which you know is wrong because you're unwilling to accept that your fear of your own penis has no valid merit. I would strongly urge that you take some time out to masturbate. It might just make you feel better.

You can respond if you really want, but you have nothing more to say that is actually worth hearing. You made a claim that you can't back up and the facts show that you're wrong. That's all there is to it. Whether I am an evil person or not is entirely irrelevant to that fact.

I wish you well.

And to everyone here, hope you all had a nice christmas or whatever else you might celebrate, and hope you all have a nice new year.

 

[hug-a-tree]

I'd rather have someone jack off than have them rape someone. Masturabtion isn't really anyone's business. Sure, it's supposed to be a sin. And everything that your saying makes sense..but it's not to much of a big deal, I think.

 

[Happeh]

happeh if you are going to deal with america you have to realize that women are not lower lifeforms they are equals.

Really? Women have a penis? Women can do hard manual labor?

What part of america do you live in? I would like to see these women. Where I live, they call those people homosexuals and transgenders.

 

[(Q)]

Where I live, they call those people homosexuals and transgenders.

Are they all near death? Have their arms or legs fallen off? Do they need hip replacements?

 

[Happeh]

I must say, if you make an assertion you must produce evidence for that assertion, else it is inane and baseless.
I'm sorry if you feel that, what you say should be taken as the total truth, this is a science forum.

See how lemmings are? If you are a lemming, you follow Snakelord. He says all the power words and knows how to phrase his speech in order to control your mind. You are not even aware he is doing this.

If you have followed this complete conversation, you will find I have offered plenty of times to speak to people. No one bothered. It has only been Snakelord posting "show me evidence" 30 times in each post. Then denying he ever said "show me evidence".

I would guess you probably dropped in and read 30 or so of Snakelords demands, and you saw me refuse. You did not see me describe that I was refusing because Snakelord is an abusive and controlling person.

any body with any sense would question the validity of your assertions if you dont or cannot produce evidence.
calling someone evil, just because you cant produce evidence, is quite honestly infantile.

Fine. I just met you. You have never posted. You know nothing of what I say other than my claim and the post are two you read. I was kind of feeling bad about calling you a lemming above. Now I don't feel bad. You are a lemming.

If you choose to discuss this subject with me, in an honest and friendly manner, I will be glad to provide you with anything I can to prove what I say. Just as I told Snakelord ad naseum, I do not have a report signed by your gods saying you have permission to believe what Happeh says. You must look at evidence and reach your own conclusions.

That frightens most lemmings. Taking responsibility for examining evidence and reaching a conclusion. Especially if a responsible person realizes the process could take weeks before a resolution is reached.

 

[Happeh]

Happeh:
So, it's just a guess of yours, then?

No. As I have clearly said before, I have been speaking on this subject on the Internet for 5 years at least. I am famous for it

Why do you expect anybody to believe you, if you have no independent evidence to back up your claims?

I used to believe that intelligent people still lived on the planet Earth. The past 5 years have shown me that most people are lemmings. They only believe what the news, the TV, or a document signed by their gods, scientists, tell them to believe.

If I wanted to, I could create a false report, sign it with false names, and post it as evidence. The people I talk to would eat it up. They would rather beleive something that was all lies because it is easy. They do not have to think for themselves. The scientists signing the report did that for them.

This phenomenon is why criminals get away with crimes. Instead of doing things themselves, people trust "authority". A criminal dresses up or acts like authority and the lemmings fall all over themselves to do what they want. Give them the live savings. Buy a new car at 50% interest. Anything. Those lemmings will do anything as long as you show them a fancy looking report signed by someone claiming to be a scientist.

Really, Happeh, this just sounds nutty.

What do you want me to say? When people said that homosexuals get AIDS, the public news said that was nutty. Until years of research is said to prove this is true.

Please explain how masterbation can lead to the need for hip replacement surgery. What is the causal connection? Do you know, or are you just pointing out a correlation that you believe exists?

You won't understand unless you know how the body works. You don't know how the body works because you never cared. If you read about how the body works in western medicine books, you will not find the answer. Their description is incompetent or it is lies. They omit the pertinent information.

There is a direct link between your penis and the entire rest of your body. You may think that is crazy, but that is the way it is. Therefore, anything that happens to your penis, can and will affect the rest of the body.

What's "excessive", exactly? How many times a day? Or how many times over what period of time, in general?

This is one of those health questions. It depends on the people. If you are masturbating many times a week, I think that is bad. I don't think it matters if you masturbate once in awhile. Of course you should be having sex with a woman, but if not, there is a legitimate need once in awhile for masturbation.

What is better. Instead of asking "how many times can I masturbate without going blind", you should wonder if there is a way to get sexual relief that might, I said might, not cause the symptoms to occur.

I'd say you're a bit nutty. Got any proof?

No. In a way I wish I would have reworded that. What I mean to say is that masturbation causes the body to be depleted. This depleted state makes the body more open to AIDS infection, or less able to fight AIDS infection. Thereby indirectly causing death.

Do you have anything else to add about masterbation? Any actual evidence apart from your own say-so?

I have lots. I know you asked me a question before. I could swear I asked you to ask me something specific. I don't want to waste my time by throwing things up that you won't accept. Snakelord won't accept pictures as a way to learn how to see the symptoms. If you have the same attitude, I am limited in what I can provide you.

 

[leopold]

Really? Women have a penis? Women can do hard manual labor?

What part of america do you live in? I would like to see these women. Where I live, they call those people homosexuals and transgenders.

yes really
no, women do not have penis's
yes they can do hard manual labor they are not weak as you assume
i live in the northeast

for the rest of it you seemed to have misunderstood the statement

edit
like i told buddha1, submit your 5 years of research to cornell, yale, and harvard

i already know what you are going to say so to save you the time i will also add submit your 5 years of research to a russian university as well

 

[Happeh]

While this has certainly been an amusing endeavour, it is also somewhat tragic to believe anyone could be as misguided as you Happeh.

Hallelujah. I hope this is a brushoff. Being sick every day reading your posts is not my idea of an enjoyable holidays.

Firstly you make the grandest of mistakes by labelling the belief that masturbation causes blindness and so on as "happeh theory", when people have been making these claims for centuries. As a result of that it is not 'happeh theory', but someone elses assumption that has been passed down.

So predictable. Take what the person claims is there's, and make it sound like it belongs to someone else. You did the same thing to lori. You said the stuff she found in the trash belonged to someone, and lori was a thief for stealing it.

You really are scum Snakelord.

These claims most often stem from the religious community, that because of the sheer drivelling lunacy of their bible, are so anti-human that they will try to deny people the right to do anything. They dream up the most inane garbage possible in order to prevent others from living their lives - while not having the courage or conviction of their beliefs to ever show that it is an actuality. Of course then science comes along and shows, (that with every other belief the religious have held for two millennia), it is completely fallacious - but it doesn't make a difference. These fools ignore the facts and continue along their dangerous path of self delusion. Worse than that is they drag any naive young person along with them, and in the case of yourself, I can see just how harmful and costly that can be.

You are so full of baloney! I am not religious. I don't know any religious people. I don't go to church. I don't read the biblie.

Just like most of your other writings, that stuff is all lies or things you just make up because it sounds good. I am laughing out loud at how foolish you are making yourself look. If you asked anyone that knew me if I was religious, they would roll in the floor laughing at the idea.

Although I didn't manage to find out your age, I can only hint at how even more tragic it would be if you've actually reached adulthood.

Yep. Just like I said. You wanted personal details so you could use them to insult me.

You are a snake, Snakelord. Your nick does psychologically describe you.

The myths concerning masturbation are nothing more than myths - with no grounding in reality. So, let's bring it down to facts - which ends your argument permanently, (although you never really had one to begin with).

Scientific fact: There are no negative short-term or long-term medical health effects from masturbation.

Keep telling yourself that

Your argument ends here. Feel free to ask for the proof, the evidence and it shall be provided. Do not worry that doing so will cause me or anyone else to label you as evil -that is not how science works.

The argument ends here because I exposed you as a mental health professional using their training to terrorize and abuse people on the internet.

Although the lemmings here cannot see it, we both know your brain is in a turmoil because I scored a direct hit.

Simply put, you are afraid of the truth,

You don't see me playing word games for pages while refusing to participate in a discussion. I plainly state that any honest and friendly person willing to think like a scientist investigating a new phenomenon will get full cooperation from me. If they come at me like you, aggressive, hurtful, playing submission/dominance games, I will treat them just like I treated you.

I have given you ample opportunity, indeed I have asked some 70 or more times for you to provide the evidence to clear the matter up. Alas you clearly do not have any, (which you did indeed eventually state is due to your lack of "millions of dollars and a laboratory"), and as a result have found it pertinent to resort to calling me evil instead. While that is your right as an individual, it says a lot more about you than you probably want it to.

Nope. It says exactly what I want it to say. It says I am too much for Snakelord. He has met his match and is abondoning the field in defeat.

In conclusion: You are wrong. Everyone knows you are wrong, even you. Alas you will still try to justify that which you know is wrong because you're unwilling to accept that your fear of your own penis has no valid merit. I would strongly urge that you take some time out to masturbate. It might just make you feel better.

Sorry. Now that you are exposed, your words have no power. You are just a hater trying to drag me down. You don't care about science, scientific inquiry or the scientific method. You don't care about being reasonable. You only care about dominance and submission. Maybe you should stop being a doctor and hire yourself at as a Dominatrix in the sex magazines. I think you would be psychologically more fulfilled. I hear the money is very good also.

You can respond if you really want, but you have nothing more to say that is actually worth hearing. You made a claim that you can't back up and the facts show that you're wrong. That's all there is to it. Whether I am an evil person or not is entirely irrelevant to that fact.

Sure it is relevant. Evil is contagious. If anyone reading this never heard of evil, let me give you some advice. If you see evil, run away. Evil is contagious. It rubs off on you. If you hang around Snakelord long enough, you will begin to speak like him. Then you will begin to think like him.

The really bad part? Once inside of you, you can't get rid of it. You can rein it in and stop it from hurting people. But those evil thoughts and that way of thinking to hurt others is always inside of you trying to get out. You will pine for the days of happiness and joy that you experienced when your mind was clean and pure.

I wish you well.

And to everyone here, hope you all had a nice christmas or whatever else you might celebrate, and hope you all have a nice new year.

Sure you do. That satisfies your need to be polite and everyone saw you be polite. Doesn't matter that you don't mean it. It only matters that you make the gesture.

Have fun suffering over the next decade or so. I wish I could be there to watch it. I will see you on the other side, after you have converted over to good.

 

[Happeh]

I'd rather have someone jack off than have them rape someone. Masturabtion isn't really anyone's business. Sure, it's supposed to be a sin. And everything that your saying makes sense..but it's not to much of a big deal, I think.

Hey. If you think mental dementia, blindness and being crippled is no big deal, that is your business as an adult.

 

[Happeh]

Where I live, they call those people homosexuals and transgenders.

Are they all near death? Have their arms or legs fallen off? Do they need hip replacements?

The majority of them show readily identifiable signs of sickness.

 

[Happeh]

yes really
no, women do not have penis's
yes they can do hard manual labor they are not weak as you assume
i live in the northeast

for the rest of it you seemed to have misunderstood the statement

edit
like i told buddha1, submit your 5 years of research to cornell, yale, and harvard

i already know what you are going to say so to save you the time i will also add submit your 5 years of research to a russian university as well

You need to work on your thinking Leopoldo. You have a thought, but you have a very hard time writing it down so that other people understand your meaning.

Maybe I am trying to teach you that lesson. I am purposefully misinterpreting what you mean in order to force you to think more clearly and write down those more clear thoughts.

I have some other advice for you. You have a problem in that you are open to manipulation by unscrupulous people. You apparently have not learned that some people have no morals. They will lie to you or manipulate you because they enjoy it.

I witnessed what was going back and forth between you and Buddha. At one point I saw you say "I am not educated enough, you will have to give me links to this". Or something very similar to that.

What you really said was "I give up, you are the man". That is how Snakelord thinks. Submission and Dominance. I do not know what Buddha is going on about. I do know he has a reasonable grasp of the English language. I do know he apparently has been reading how I respond to Snakelord, and now he is using the same style in his own writings.

You need to be careful about who you decide knows more than you. You just saw Snakelord try to talk circles around me. It didn't work because I know how people like him operate. I know what their goals are behind all the words. I feel Buddha is taking advantage of you. I don't know for certain though because the stuff he is talking about holds no interest at all for me.

 

[Godless]

No. As I have clearly said before, I have been speaking on this subject on the Internet for 5 years at least. I am famous for it

Show evidence of your fame. I've never fucking heard such idiotic bull shit!.

Your famous for being an idiot?

Show those links were you showed everyone else your assumption is theory. Show the evidence and perhaps you can save your dignity.

Godless

 

[leopold]

know what is lacking? happehs answer to the question "do you masturbate".
why have you not answered this happeh?

 

[Happeh]

Show evidence of your fame. I've never fucking heard such idiotic bull shit!.

Your famous for being an idiot?

Show evidence you can make a post that does not include the word idiot.

Ya I am famous. Some conservative journal took one of my posts on masturbation and included it in their collection of things "religious nuts" say. I am famous.

Show those links were you showed everyone else your assumption is theory. Show the evidence and perhaps you can save your dignity.

Godless

Did you ever get around to saying what you noticed in the John Spencer picture? The one I posted to get the proof started? Or were you too busy posting "idiot" to get to it?

 

[Happeh]

know what is lacking? happehs answer to the question "do you masturbate".
why have you not answered this happeh?

I told you that you are disgusting. I told you the question made me feel slimy.

People have no idea how to behave these days. They ask probing and prying questions as if they are a doctor, policeman or a family member. They have no sense of propriety at all.

I know people that would smile at you, wait until they could get rid of you, and then never let you back again for asking questions like that. Asking a question like that tells people who you are. A person with no boundaries. A person who is rude. A person who is thoughtless. A person who does not consider the feelings of others.

Your every word is an insight into who you are and what you think. You should be aware of that and consider what you say to other people.