Malaysia bans the word Allah from bibles

[Shadow1]

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no, i don't think i'm capable, but defferently i can understand
and sidscuss, thanks for teh advise anyway

 

[S.A.M.]

no, i don't think i'm capable, but defferently i can understand
and sidscuss, thanks for teh advise anyway

don't worry, you'll still have to answer for all the Muslims you don't speak for.

 

[Shadow1]

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yes, but some peope cant understand, cause they have a stuck idea about us that they got it from the u.s. media, and put it in their heads, it's just, useless, to discusse more about this,

 

[S.A.M.]

yes, but some peope cant understand, cause they have a stuck idea about us that they got it from the u.s. media, and put it in their heads, it's just, useless, to discusse more about this,

Its not that they can't understand, its that they need a reason to keep on doing what they are doing.

 

[Shadow1]

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i'm yes, exactly, they just keep planting those ideas, i'm not going to deny that we have our prob. like you have your problems, but they just keep showing horrible pictures and ideas about us on the media, even they attacked relegion, and they pertend that they beleive in the divercity of culture and relegions, but when it comes about arabs, or muslims, they don't,
most of americans if you told him an arab o muslim, he will tell you that they are all terrorists, not like in europe, they are open minded, cause many arabs and muslims live among them, and know how they really are, and most of them know the real facts, and have a realistic logic,
it's not the american people faults that they think that we are like the media show us, but it's teh goverments faults,
i hate politics,

 

[Michael]

first, christian did teh same things in the past,

according to your second sentence, see below, they never existed. (that is, Christians never hurt anyone so anyone who does is not a "real" Christian. I mean, this IS your argument about the Taliban isn't it? Why apply you logic one way and not the other?)

second, there's no such thing calls Taliban muslims, taliban is a terrorist,

Tell that to them not me. They say they are Muslims and destroying 2500 year old Statues is doing the work of Allah. Allah loves to see Buddhist statues destroyed. Allah loved to see Arab Polytheistic Statues destroyed. Such destruction makes Allah feel good and warm and good and if there some blood of the infidel spilled well mmm mmm yum. Allah loved that.

third, the jerusalam doom, didnt belong neither to muslims, neither to jews, neither to chritians,

Well, at one point that land did belong to Jews and that's the reason it was chosen by Muslims. If you think this area was picked out of the air willy nilly you're silly. Muslims specifically chose this spot of land to take it away from the Jews and give it to Muslims. Because Allah like to harm Jews like this. To make them feel sad makes Allah so happy. Now me, I think that's kind of mean - don't you? I mean, you wouldn't want some USA solders to take the Kabaa and give it to American Mormons would you? Of course you wouldn't. Good thing the Mormon God isn't an arse hole like that huh?

Allah could have picked any spot on earth, but no no no Mohammad had to ascend to Heaven right in the perfect spot to guarantee 1000s of years of war. Allah loves this war and all the blood that is spilled. Yummy Yum Yum.

That Allah sure is an Arse Hole like that isn't He?

oh i forgot, chiritians never did those things in the past, and they are not doing it toaday right, what about palastine, and iraq, and sudan, u.s. if fuelign teh inner wars of sudan,

Sure Christians are. They're just like Muslims. They kill in the name of their God too.

and are you saying, that every civilisation should take back it's land that used to belong to them before 2000 or 2500 years from now, oh, mayeb italy should take all it's old lands, oh, what about incas, and red indians, and aztects, don't you think they should take back their lands too?, oh, what about egypt, don't you think that it should take back all it's odl terrotories??
forth: you're out of the topic, we're not talking about relegion problems here,ok?

Then why are Palestinians trying to take back Israeli land? They lost it and it's now someone elses. This IS what you are saying right?




Muslims have a History of intolerance towards other people's differing religious beliefs. JUST LIKE CHRISTIANS. Both Muslims AND Christians AND Jews are the exactly the same.

They actuality worship the same blood thirsty God who loves to set them up to fight and kill one another for His amusement.

we're talkign about the ancient inventions of the medival arabic islamic empire

so pleas, don't discusse this here,
if you were kidna racist, or intollerent, of a dictator in your thinking, then saty away,
but i hope that you bee open-minded and don't go off-topic

No this thread is: WHY do Muslims destroy and act violently towards Christians for using the word Allah. A word Christians had been using for centuries OR maybe longer BEFORE Islam.

Well? Why? Why are Muslims always so violent towards people of different faiths? THAT'S the real question. What is it about Islam that inspires such violence in some Muslims? Well? What is it? Why are they so violent?

 

[S.A.M.]

i'm yes, exactly, they just keep planting those ideas, i'm not going to deny that we have our prob. like you have your problems, but they just keep showing horrible pictures and ideas about us on the media, even they attacked relegion, and they pertend that they beleive in the divercity of culture and relegions, but when it comes about arabs, or muslims, they don't,
most of americans if you told him an arab o muslim, he will tell you that they are all terrorists, not like in europe, they are open minded, cause many arabs and muslims live among them, and know how they really are, and most of them know the real facts, and have a realistic logic,
it's not the american people faults that they think that we are like the media show us, but it's teh goverments faults,
i hate politics,

Well this is how it is. When they kill a million people its collateral damages, when they torture people to death, its a few bad eggs, when they impose their military, society, politics and religion its bringing democracy.

When you resist any of the above, you're a terrorist.

You just have to learn the fine tuning of their mentality to understand why, when you say something, its the biggest evil in the world, but when they leave a trail of destruction and death, its just another day in paradise.

 

[GeoffP]

It's funny how it turns into a "you don't have to apologize for everyone else" line.

No one is suggesting that anyone apologize for anyone else.

No one is asking shadow to do it.

What's being pointed out is that religious minorities face a tough time in numerous Islamic nations.

If there's poverty in Detroit, should I say that there is, or deny it and say that there's poverty everywhere, so I won't apologize for it? Wouldn't it be better to say that there is? Just rationally agree, maybe?

And...and...Afghanistan!

Too funny.

 

[Shadow1]

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i didnt asked anyone to appologise,

and hey MICHAEL, you're such naiif, why are talkign so agressive,
god love blood???!!! god be happy when killing jews???!!!
go get a life dud!
racist people like you will be always intollerent, and dectotoric,
get some education for your self, :bugeye:

 

[Creeping Death]

i didnt asked anyone to appologise,

and hey MICHAEL, you're such naiif, why are talkign so agressive,
god love blood???!!! god be happy when killing jews???!!!
go get a life dud!
racist people like you will be always intollerent, and dectotoric,
get some education for your self, :bugeye:

Try using the spell check?

 

[Shadow1]

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sorry, i'm not very good at spelling ,anyway i tip fast on the keybord, so sometimes i forget some letters or miss some
what's wrong with Michael any way?

 

[Shadow1]

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you know Michale, you make me laugh, hahahahahaha
:crazy::wallbang::xctd:

 

[Michael]

Shadow1,

Look, perhaps I have you wrong. I should probably ask your opinion on a few topics and then we'll know were each of us stand.

(1) Do you think that the Bible has been corrupted?
(2) Do you think that Arabic is Allah's language? The perfect language?

(3) Is it possible that Hindu Religious Beliefs are correct?
(4) Is it possible that Christian Religious Beliefs are correct?

(5) Is it possible that the Qur'an is not Perfect?
(6) Is it possible that there is no God?


I'm atheist. Which is not that different from you. You're atheist for many many different Gods. Many Gods that the Japanese build shrines to today, you are atheist for.

I will say this. You may be absolutely correct. Perhaps I am 100% wrong. That is possible. Or, maybe we are both wrong and the Hindu's Religion is correct? That is also possible.



BUT, this is what I think. I think that teaching people that ONLY the Qur'an is true, ONLY Mohammad is the Last Prophet and Only Islam is the uncorrupted true path - is racist. And, THAT is the real reason why real Muslim burned down Christians Churches.



Imagine things from this point of view. Imagine that instead of this: Malaysia bans the word Allah from bibles is was Georgia bans Blacks from attending White's Only Schools. And then imagine that some white people burned down a school because they let a Black attend class. And then I come on this forum have to hear someone WASPs telling me: There's nothing wrong with White Supremacy. Nothing at all. As a matter of fact those people who burned down that school for letting in a Black kids aren't even real WASPs, because WASPs are non violent. So they can't be. It's all because of Nationalism. Or past colonialism. Or Europeans. Or any number of other excusses. While each day we continue to watch as more and more "radicalized" WASPs take to violence.

Islam is even worse Shadow1, it's probably easier to reason with a WASPs about why Race doesn't exist than it is to reason with a Muslim on why God doesn't.



Now, I apologies if that makes you feel upset. And what I tell WASP they're idiots, well, they get peeved as well.



IF you can not admit that even there is a possibility of you being wrong and there not being a God, then what's the point? I mean, at least I'm willing to say: You may be right.

 

[Shadow1]

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the onyl thing i can say, god bless you, no more, i cant say anythign more,

now let's not talk about this again, it seems that you get agressive and somehow racists about those kinds of topics, so, i want reply more on your parol attacks,
just, god bless you, let's just drop out this topic, and the problem is finished, i mean, none of us will change the world by this kinds of discussions, so, take care,

 

[Shadow1]

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and it's ok, you didnt make me feal upset, cause i'm still attacked to my facts, and you still attached to yours, so, let's drop it both,
friendly question: i noticed, in many videos, if it was published by arab, or about arab, other people, always start making accusments, to arabs, and muslims, even in a video clip, they say, oh my god, is she muslims??!! they are barbarian anyway, most of them, so i want to know, why most of you, when he see anykinds of videos, by arab or about arab, he always say something about relegion?


just a simple unswer, you don't know, or you don't kare it's ok, as i said before, let's drop out this discussion topic, just 3 or 2 phrases simple unswer, no analyses,

 

[GeoffP]

Shadow, could you not accuse Michael of racism, please? He's not advancing any argument of that sort. Thanks.

Anyway, what I think we've learned from the source topic is that such prejudice does indeed go on, in Malaysia and elsewhere. The question is: what to do about it? Is confrontation a good idea, or does it merely open up minorities to violence, for example?

 

[S.A.M.]

We bring democracy to the masses:

 

[GeoffP]

Off topic. Or are you insinuating that this is what's likely to happen to the Copts, say, if they try to stand up to religious suppression? In that case I couldn't agree more; they'd be lucky to get off so lightly.

 

[Shadow1]

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no no no! i'm not accusing anyone, i just said to drop the thing that we were discussign it, cause michael started to say, "in islam, god like to kill jews" "god love blood" and stuff, it's kinda started to be agressive" so i juts cuted it,
and i'm not calling him racist, and i'm nto accusing anyone, if it really was racist, or something.
really, i dint meanmichael, or anyone i saw here, just a friendly advice, don't get me wrong

 

[S.A.M.]

Off topic. Or are you insinuating that this is what's likely to happen to the Copts, say, if they try to stand up to religious suppression? In that case I couldn't agree more; they'd be lucky to get off so lightly.

As long as they call it democracy, they can throw them to the lions and its all fine.