strange that you can half heartedly entertain a god that can orchestrate the karma of all living entities on the planet (if not the universe) yet find the notion of a god that can give an accurate figure on how many species exist too hard to swallow
Life After Death but Without God
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Let me get this straight.....a soul is subject to return to Earth but circumstances dictate which life form (species) it will take? Is it safe to assume then that every creature has a soul? Also, where did the soul that inhabits the human life form previously reside?
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your suggestion that comforts are commonly pursued outside of the presence of discomfort
return to the material universe - the earth is simply one of many planets
that circumstance is a combination of what the living entity deserves and desires
sure
all souls have their origins in the spiritual world (where they exist with an eternal sense of identity) - coming to the material world (whether as a human, demigod or bug) affords the opportunity to try out many other types of identities, none of which are eternal (which becomes an acute source of distress)
I could ask the same question
Are they relatively comfortable with their existence mostly because they have effectively dealt with(or more realistically, "managed") the presence of discomfort?
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Well, contrary to your claim, they're certainly not insane. :bugeye: Can I assume given that you seemingly don't want to focus on your claim that you now retract it?
To your question, they are - (relatively, very, overwhelmingly, not very much, quite a lot, up and down) comfortable because of not only the way they manage the notion of discomfort, death etc but also how much of it they happen to get in their lives. I am personally overwhelmingly comfortable in life - my condolences that you are not.
if they indicate that they are not affected by issues of discomfort while literally working 24/7 to remain comfortable (which in itself is a type of discomfort - most people look forward to the weekend .... unless their homelife is a source of discomfort) it does tend to breach issues of hypocrisy, insanity or immaturity.
Take your choice.
Your statement is meaningless. Being comfortable with ones existence doesn't mean you're not affected by issues of discomfort or by working. (I personally really enjoy my job but sure, I might get toothache next month) - that doesn't make me "uncomfortable with my existence". Maybe it does for you, you have my sympathy I guess.
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can you give a comprehensive list of commonly pursued comforts that exist independently from commonly perceived discomforts?
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If more than one soul desired to become George Bush then how was it determined who got it? Do plants have souls? Do individual cells have souls?
I take it that souls are aware of life on other planets, and as to what has become extinct I would assume. No soul desires to be something long gone, so being up to date on extinctions should be a soul priority as well. How do souls receive this information?
each soul is uniquely individual .... but the material designation is not - so it depends what it is about Mr Bush one wants to be. If you mean what does it take to be the president of the USA, that requires a backlog of pious credits (of course a popular habit of the conditioned soul is to accrue pious credits and then blow them all on impious credits after occupying an opulent position - like this the soul effectively goes nowhere for many universal devastations)
yes
yes
sure
basically the universe gets restored to its factory settings around every 5 million years .... and getting an overhaul every 71 factory setting restorations until getting written off after about 350 000 overhauls
the universe affords a lot of opportunity on a lot of different planets
SnakeLord, is there anything, any activity that you pursue in your life that is not motivated by your desire to relieve some discomfort or other?
For example, you work because you don't want the troubles of poverty, hunger, loneliness, right?
You pursue various hobbies so that you wouldn't feel bored and unfulfilled, no?
You eat so that you wouldn't feel the discomfort of hunger anymore, no?
You go to sleep so that you wouldn't feel tired anymore, no?
You give some money to beggars so that you wouldn't feel bad watching them, no?
Are there any things that you do solely because you are such a good person and who can afford to spend time, energy and money on things that are not in any way whatsoever motivated by your desire to relieve some discomfort of yours?
Are there any things that you do that are not in any way whatsoever motivated by things like boredom, hunger, feelings of cold, feelings of warmth, pain, guilt, fear of poverty, fear of loneliness, ... etc. etc.?
Methinks someone is pulling my leg. I sure as hell hope so for your sake LG.
This is an interesting read on the aspect of the "spirit" or "soul"
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/articles001.html
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/articles001.html
I shall assume that your non-answer means you don't intend to support your statement. Fair enough.
Most things, I guess we're just different kinds of people.
No, I work because it makes things even more fun for me. Not only by giving me a day of doing something that I enjoy, but letting me see the world and all its beauty, try delicious foods from around the world etc.
In either case, given the context of discussion, I wouldn't see how working to avoid being poor would mean that being comfortable with such existence means you're insane. Hey, we're all different I guess.
No. I pursue various hobbies so that I can experience the great things that life has to offer. And often, like last night, I sit outside in the garden with a cup of tea doing nothing but looking skyward. That's just as fun.
It would seem the difference comes down to glasses - half full or half empty. I do things because I want to, because I enjoy doing so. If you do things to try and escape a meaningless life then you have my sympathy but there's nothing I can do about it.
No, otherwise I wouldn't eat when I'm not hungry. Furthermore, I wouldn't describe hunger as a discomfort, (sure, I've probably never been that hungry). I like to cook, to make and try wonderful foods. It's good fun.
I love my snoozes, the dreamworld is quite remarkable. However, I wouldn't describe getting tired as a discomfort or reason to not be comfortable with my existence. If you do that is your right.
No. Can't say I personally care.
Yeah, most things - although I will give you toilet breaks.
I shall assume that the "etc etc" basically includes anything that can be considered a reason for doing anything. Hence it would seem that unless I assert that I do something for no reason then your statement is valid. Given the context of discussion I don't personally see much in the way of relevance. Being comfortable with your existence doesn't mean you must do everything without a reason for doing so.
He only put on his jacket because he felt cold! He must be uncomfortable with his existence or he's insane!
Sorry, it just doesn't follow.
once again, it makes me wonder why you can half heartedly entertain a god that can orchestrate the karma of all living entities yet find the notion of a god that is in any way knowledgeable about the size and operation of the universe untenable