Legalize the C word!

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Gustav said:
i agree doc

hey so ahh
what yer wearing?

/pant
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What makes you think Barbie is a she ?

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Barbie said:
Wow, is that what I agreed to? But seriously, you can't expect people to read the agreement, it's as long as Homer's iliad, people instinctively click "Agree" when they see those infamous bodies of text when registering. The agreement could have said "By registering to this site you just put a hit on your own mother, faggot" and we would have all agreed, oblivious to the fact that our mothers were soon going to be killed.



What if you use those words as compliments like "your muscles are as hard as cock, you've been working out?" or "she is as beautiful as a cunt (cunt meaning vagina, of course)" or "you smell like anything but shit" etc.
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Oli said:
So your point would be "I'm too lazy/ inept/ dilatory to check what I'm agreeing to before I actually click "I agree"?
How smart does that make you feel?

"Duh, well of course I clicked on the "agree" button, but I didn't really mean it... You can't blame me for for being dumb, it's the way I was brought up" :rolleyes:
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Shut up Oli she seems really smart.
 
I think Oli has a really valid point here. Even if someone doesn't read the whole contract, they still signed it, and if mods come and tell you that you did something against what that contract said, then you really have no basis for a valid argument.
 
You could still argue discrimination if the rules are selectively enforced.
 
skaught said:
I think Oli has a really valid point here. Even if someone doesn't read the whole contract, they still signed it, and if mods come and tell you that you did something against what that contract said, then you really have no basis for a valid argument.
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Its not the contract. The argument is that it doesn't really matter what the contract says since whatever rules are decided upon are randomly made, changed, followed and doled out. The argument is that its arbitrary since each mod decides when and how to follow, or rather interpret, the rules. So for example even if Plazma says this:

"You can say fuck, cock, shit, cunt, etc. as long as these words aren't used to describe other SciForums member."

Its not the way James had handled the situation. Warnings and bans are handed out arbitrarily and that is the argument in this particular case and probably many others. What these rules are and how they are handled has changed over time which is why the contract and what one signs comes into question. If someone joined this site six or seven years ago the moderation and the rules are very different from what they are now as the culture has changed, the mods and admins have also changed and so has the rules.
 
Lucysnow said:
Its not the contract. The argument is that it doesn't really matter what the contract says since whatever rules are decided upon are randomly made, changed, followed and doled out. The argument is that its arbitrary since each mod decides when and how to follow, or rather interpret, the rules. So for example even if Plazma says this:

"You can say fuck, cock, shit, cunt, etc. as long as these words aren't used to describe other SciForums member."

Its not the way James had handled the situation. Warnings and bans are handed out arbitrarily and that is the argument in this particular case and probably many others. What these rules are and how they are handled has changed over time which is why the contract and what one signs comes into question. If someone joined this site six or seven years ago the moderation and the rules are very different from what they are now as the culture has changed, the mods and admins have also changed and so has the rules.
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Uhm but it does matter what the contract says. It refers to existing rules, how could it not apply ?
Doesn't it also say somewhere that the mods can apply the rules according to their discretion ? Not sure there though.
Point is, 'the people' have no or little say. It's not a democracy.
 
Whatever you signed up to at the time the rules of this place changes based on arbitrary decisions of mods and admins.

So if there is a rule it is not hard and fast, its arbitrary and is applied at the discretion of whichever mod or admin happens to be in control at the time THAT IN FACT MEANS THE RULES ARE ARBITRARY. I am not saying its a democracy and have never intimated that this is a democracy.
 
Lucysnow said:
Whatever you signed up to at the time the rules of this place changes based on arbitrary decisions of mods and admins.

So if there is a rule it is not hard and fast, its arbitrary and is applied at the discretion of whichever mod or admin happens to be in control at the time THAT IN FACT MEANS THE RULES ARE ARBITRARY. I am not saying its a democracy and have never intimated that this is a democracy.
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But you said that if the rules are, or appear to be, applied arbitrary that the rules themselves then are arbitrary. This is obviously not true.
 
If you suddeny get warned for something which you were not warned for the last 300 times you did it, thats arbitrary.
 
S.A.M. said:
If you suddeny get warned for something which you were not warned for the last 300 times you did it, thats arbitrary.
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Sure, but the rules aren't. They are just applied arbitrarily.
So, one can't complain about the rules being applied.. right? Complain when they're NOT applied.
 
But it is true Enmos. Plazma said specifically that the use of the word was ban worthy only when directed towards a member. Read his post he didn't say that those terms were offensive language in and of themselves. Varda wasn't banned for directing the term towards a member initially but warned, everyone else was INSTANTLY banned for using the term and not warned yet the use of the word cunt it wasn't directed towards any particular member as an offense. If the rules were not applied arbitrarily then Varda would have been instantly banned and there would not have been the second thread OR all other members would have first been warned and not instantly banned for using the term, yet to listen to Plazma none of them under the guidelines given should have been banned since it wasn't being used to insult another member. (an example of the 'rules' not being applied)
 
Lucysnow said:
But it is true Enmos. Plazma said specifically that the use of the word was ban worthy only when directed towards a member. Read his post he didn't say that those terms were offensive language in and of themselves. Varda wasn't banned for directing the term towards a member initially but warned, everyone else was INSTANTLY banned for using the term and not warned yet the use of the word cunt it wasn't directed towards any particular member as an offense. If the rules were not applied arbitrarily then Varda would have been instantly banned and there would not have been the second thread OR all other members would have first been warned and not instantly banned for using the term, yet to listen to Plazma none of them under the guidelines given should have been banned since it wasn't being used to insult another member.
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Yea, but come on.. what did you expect ?!
You guys were obviously challenging authority. If you play with fire sometimes you get burned :shrug:
Besides, I don't see what the big deal is. You were only banned for one day. Just don't use the word anymore (most members never use it so it can be done) and there shouldn't any problem.
 
Challenging authority? :bugeye: Being part of a thread is challenging authority? Or me saying to Varda:

"Who complained? Silly ole cunt. I guess it depends on context. I mean it would be warning worthy I guess if you called someone a cunt in a discussion. What I notice is not specific words but almost ANYTHING someone is offended by, its bloody annoying too I can assure you. Remember when a thread title had to be changed because it said something about English people being wankers? The English bloody invented the wanker!"

Its a challenge to who's authority?

You seem to not be keeping track of this thread. This isn't about the ban per se as I said I doubt she really cares about the ban and I know Varda certainly doesn't care about the ban. VI started this thread and I said to her that the word isn't illegal since it has been and can be used and that the bans were an arbitrary move on the part of the mod. I was telling her to forget about trying to make sense of the whole thing or making a plea for the term since its all ARBITRARY.

Stick with the program. Or rather read the posts.
 
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Enmos said:
Sure, but the rules aren't. They are just applied arbitrarily.
So, one can't complain about the rules being applied.. right? Complain when they're NOT applied.
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Hmm you're right. Why wasn't I warned for off topic posting the last X times I said reported?:mad::mad::mad:
 
Lucysnow said:
Challenging authority? :bugeye: Being part of a thread is challenging authority? Or me saying to Varda:

"Who complained? Silly ole cunt. I guess it depends on context. I mean it would be warning worthy I guess if you called someone a cunt in a discussion. What I notice is not specific words but almost ANYTHING someone is offended by, its bloody annoying too I can assure you. Remember when a thread title had to be changed because it said something about English people being wankers? The English bloody invented the wanker!"

Its a challenge to who's authority?

You seem to not keeping track of the thread. This isn't about the ban per se. VI started this thread and I said to her that the word isn't illegal since it has been and can be used and that the bans were an arbitrary move on the part of the mod. I was telling her to forget about trying to make sense of the whole thing or making a plea for the term since its all ARBITRARY.

Stick with the program.
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Varda gets warned for using a word. Then she creates a thread about it with the word as the title. Next some people start using that word about 15 times per post.
That's challenging authority to me.
"Varda got a warning for using that word. Ridiculous! Lets see what happens when we use that word over and over and over."
Well, I guess you found out :p
 
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