You admit that the sacred text of Judaism, which comes from Moses, who got it from God, which Jesus followed, is a mistake?Nope. I have never met a Jewish person who went around killing gays, so they pretty much ignore it too.
It certainly _contains_ mistakes. (Compare Genesis 1 to Genesis 2, for example.) And that shouldn't be a surprise, since it came from word-of-mouth stories - and we all know how reliable those are.You admit that the sacred text of Judaism, which comes from Moses, who got it from God, which Jesus followed, is a mistake?
Your own morality.How do you determine which parts are a mistake and which parts are not?
Bingo. As an atheist I do the same thing.Your own morality.
But, if he really cared, wouldn't he give them good data to make a decision with? I know I would.Exactly - and that's what's been happening.
Letting people make their own decisions, perhaps?
Do you have kids? At some point you have to let them make their own decisions based on the best information they (not you) can get.But, if he really cared, wouldn't he give them good data to make a decision with? I know I would.
Do you have kids? At some point you have to let them make their own decisions based on the best information they (not you) can get.
Do you have kids? At some point you have to let them make their own decisions based on the best information they (not you) can get.
Fair enough. Many people feel the same way about the Bible - we should try to follow it, but the original is somewhat flawed.
Nope. No equivalence, just an analogy to how we treat our kids when they grow up. (i.e. telling someone exactly what to do isn't always the best thing to do.)If you are implying god is the equivalent of dad . . .
Nope. No equivalence, just an analogy to how we treat our kids when they grow up. (i.e. telling someone exactly what to do isn't always the best thing to do.)
No - never had kids. But it's irrelevant. Even if I did, I wouldn't make up the rules, explain them poorly and then threaten to send them to hell if they got it wrong.Do you have kids? At some point you have to let them make their own decisions based on the best information they (not you) can get.
how we treat our kids when they grow up.
Do men follows the teaching of the torah ? No. If you tell your kid don't stick your hand in fire, but if he keep insisting so it get hurt so is this society. Preaching is one side , being is the other side. ( what you sew that is what you will harvers )Ummmm
Have you looked outside your imagination lately and seen how tranquil and in harmony the world is?
If it would be as you think , people of israel would not survived from Abraham's time to the present time/ the times to wipe out Israel out of existence were many , yet He brought them out from four corners to the land He give to Abraham.According to the bible & mainstream Christian belief, god does tell us what to do. We are to obey god in everything all the time. Sin is disobeying god. The very 1st disobedience severely pissed god off & it has been perpetually angry at humans for being the humans it created. It is god's way or the hellway.
God is not comparable to parents. God is the worst possible "1984" insane obsessive dictator. IF the god of the Christian bible were to exist, it would be many times worse than Hitler.
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Tell that to the Jews.Do men follows the teaching of the torah ? No.
Make up your mind, did the Jews survive because of Judaism or was it just luck?If it would be as you think , people of israel would not survived from Abraham's time to the present time/ the times to wipe out Israel out of existence were many , yet He brought them out from four corners to the land He give to Abraham.
There's no "age." Again, God is not a parent.So the question still remains
where is the exchange point where god cuts the apron strings?
Like to put a age on it?
Right. But let's say you explain them pretty clearly to a bunch of people. They go off and tell their friends. They tell their friends. Then someone writes it down. Then 500 years later someone translates it into another language. Then part of it gets lost. Then they translate the remaining parts into yet another language. At that point there are some errors and mistakes in the text.No - never had kids. But it's irrelevant. Even if I did, I wouldn't make up the rules, explain them poorly and then threaten to send them to hell if they got it wrong.
You can believe that if you like; no worries. I don't.According to the bible & mainstream Christian belief, god does tell us what to do.
If that's what you believe - OK.We are to obey god in everything all the time. Sin is disobeying god. The very 1st disobedience severely pissed god off & it has been perpetually angry at humans for being the humans it created. It is god's way or the hellway.
Agreed.God is not comparable to parents.
Sounds like your version of God is pretty grim. But it's your life; believe what you want.God is the worst possible "1984" insane obsessive dictator. IF the god of the Christian bible were to exist, it would be many times worse than Hitler.