I agree with your statement
You clearly have fixed prejudices about religion.
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Like which ? . You have your view and I have mine . You
I agree with your statement
I thought that was interesting too, but chose to leave it alone.
Anthropomorphizing the universe?
Gotta love generalizations.Christians are dumb or deceivers, one or the other. same with muslims.
Hmm. I wonder which one I am? I don't really make a point of deceiving people - so I guess I must be dumb.Christians are dumb or deceivers, one or the other.
Hmm. I wonder which one I am? I don't really make a point of deceiving people - so I guess I must be dumb.
Well, I guess I can live with that. I seem to get by with what limited brains I have.
yeah, maybe since you missed the part where i said that even though people can be labeled under a certain religion, they may not be subscribing to the same ethics and or god. do you agree that slavery is okay? that religious intolerance is okay? that discriminating against sexual orientation is okay?
do you agree with the old testament god? why don't you criticize that god as the gnostics did? don't bother with the usual unjustified excuses since it is supposedly god after all, because that's all they are, excuses. jesus came to do away with the old law but tacitly, what god said and did was still justified. that's condoning, btw. can't use the excuse that it was the culture of the time because, again, it is god condoning and orchestrating such things, not man, according to the religion. that's how man justifies using religion.
if you don't, then you got your answer. if you do, then you got your answer too.
Nope.yeah, maybe since you missed the part where i said that even though people can be labeled under a certain religion, they may not be subscribing to the same ethics and or god. do you agree that slavery is okay?
Nope.that religious intolerance is okay?
Nope.that discriminating against sexual orientation is okay?
Never met God, and the Bible is almost certainly filled with errors. The Old Testament, for example, started off as an oral tradition - and nothing is less reliable. If even 25% is accurate (i.e. represents real events accurately) I'd be surprised. So I can't say if I agree with the "old testament god" or not.do you agree with the old testament god?
So you think Christians have two gods - one old and one new? I don't know of anyone who believes that, but if you would like to, that's fine by me. (And I am sure somewhere in the world, someone else believes that as well.)why don't you criticize that god as the gnostics did?
Well, no, that's according to you, not "the religion." (Not even sure which one you are talking about; there are about 43,000 different Christian sects in the world.) But again, if you believe that, it's fine with me.it is god condoning and orchestrating such things, not man, according to the religion. that's how man justifies using religion.
This is something I don't understand. Why do people feel that, unless you're absolutely devoted to every single word of the Bible, you're a hypocrite?Nope.
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And often it's even odder than that. Greatest I Am often reads the Bible, comes up with some cockamamie interpretation, then claims unless you believe HIS silly interpretation you are a hypocrite. "Unless you regularly kill your own sons, you are not a Christian and are a HYPOCRITE!"This is something I don't understand. Why do people feel that, unless you're absolutely devoted to every single word of the Bible, you're a hypocrite?
Think I'm on the lost cause list
The Bible is the source now, not any organisation, so you are correct to use it.What I said comes from the bible.
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And often it's even odder than that. Greatest I Am often reads the Bible, comes up with some cockamamie interpretation, then claims unless you believe HIS silly interpretation you are a hypocrite. "Unless you regularly kill your own sons, you are not a Christian and are a HYPOCRITE!"
Well, as I've said many times, I can definitely live with people like that thinking I am a hypocrite. Means I'm doing something right.
do you ever question why there are so many people who staunchly identify themselves as christians who actively preach and practice bigotry, racism, religious intolerance, promote misogyny, promote pedophilia, protect and endorse oppression and even the worst immorality, devalue women etc?
Nope. Never been to a Klan rally. I am sure I have some beliefs in common with people who are Klansmen, but we don't share any major Klan-like beliefs.do you go to klan rallies? if not, why not? what if you have some beliefs in common but not all? would you call yourself a member of the kkk?
I am registered as an independent. I have something in common with both. I am sure you do as well.are you a democrat or a republican? don't you have something in common with both? how do you choose what to identify yourself as?
?? I identify as an independent; that group has a lot of polar opposite values within itself. I am also a skydiver, even though many skydivers have values that are polar opposites to mine.people usually don't make the mistake of identifying with an organization or idea that has polar opposite values within itself.
It is, in fact, just that. No one sane believes in the whole of the Bible. And the history of Christianity is the history of people picking (and interpreting) sections of the Bible randomly and creating whole new religions that surround it.religious texts represents a value system. it is not a store where you pick items randomly and call yourself a christian.
My beliefs. Just as democrats are not all defined by David Duke, who was both a democrat and a Grand Wizard of the KKK. Just as all Americans are not defined by Trump.if that's the case, what distinguishes you from a christian that can find texts in the bible that condone rape, pedophilia, racism, murder, slavery etc and tout that to be representative and endorsed by christianity?
That's fine; believe whatever you like.if you are both christians, then christianity has no meaning whatsoever if it's contradicting each other. one of those contradicting values is either christian or not. they both cannot be and if it is considered to be, then the way it works is the most evil value trumps as the winner because clearly a rapist, murderer, human trafficker etc is still such even if they do good or commit more acceptable acts in some other way.
Because most people in the US are Christians. If you went to the Middle East, you'd find that most evil people were Muslim. If you went to India, you'd find that most evil people are Hindu. If you went to a mostly black neighborhood, you'd find that most evil people are black.do you ever question why there are so many people who staunchly identify themselves as christians who actively preach and practice bigotry, racism, religious intolerance, promote misogyny, promote pedophilia, protect and endorse oppression and even the worst immorality, devalue women etc? you don't find that the least bit suspect or raises any eyebrows?
On the contrary, in the Bible stories Jesus came to tell the Jews that they got it wrong - i.e. that they were following the letter of the law rather than the spirit - i.e. they were cherry-picking which values to embrace. If He existed, and if He came back today, He would be telling Christians the same thing. Far from being unusual, it seems to be standard procedure for people with doctrinaire beliefs.people usually don't make the mistake of identifying with an organization or idea that has polar opposite values within itself.