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OMG, I am JUST simply shocked! SHOCKED I tell's ya! Who could imagine that Holy War would ever have been associated with Muslims? That's crazy talk - crazy I tell's ya.
Haaa! pfffff yes some things change and other stay the same.
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Islam: A Fascist State
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OMG, I am JUST simply shocked! SHOCKED I tell's ya! Who could imagine that Holy War would ever have been associated with Muslims? That's crazy talk - crazy I tell's ya.
Haaa! pfffff yes some things change and other stay the same.
M
Well SAM, you're one of the few Muslims that support the spread of Arab Polytheism, a rare Muslims indeed.... Not too many Muslims suggest that Islam is NOT good for all people and that Islam should NOT be the world's only religion. Very rare, almost heretical - actually, it probably is heretical, you'd probably lose your head in some countries.
Not really, I worked in Saudi Arabia with Hindus, Jews and Christians. The guys holding an interfaith conference you know, rather than "bringing democracy" to their poor victims. And you should look up the composition of the first Ummah under the Prophet.
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For some reason the Israeli article gives the impression it was a monotheist conference.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/18/europe/EU-Spain-Interfaith-Conference.php
Your reading comprehensions skills are lacking. I am talking about how well Islam fits with Fascism and how well it would flourish under that system. Wtf are you talking about, twinkles?
They are all derivatives of the Abrahamic cult. However, they are all different from one another and therefore must be criticized differently.
Take your puerile whining, shove it and get a pair, willya?
And there it is, for all to see, the intellectual dishonesty of a desperate theist. No, I'm not insulted by your rant, but instead, feel sorry for you.
Ok, DD, you've gone completely bonkers. Get a grip. :crazy:
SAM, your own article says "an unprecedented event" which is to say, it's never happened before. I am curious as to why Scientologists and Arab Polytheists (if any are alive) were not invited.
In all I see this as a positive step. BUT, you know as well as I do that this is about the Monarchy securing their future. And perhaps, in a sense, the future of KSA, in a gloabalized world. I wounder what the religous establishment really thinks about this? How were they pacified? Do the Imam's REALLY respect people to choose their faith? Will Muslims in KSA be allowed to become Hindu? Xian?
Please, we both know this is not going to happen for some time to come. and then only grudgingly. Probably the Imam's were sung a song about how this is the best way to bring Islam to the world - by befriending the infidel and then trying to get them to realize that Mohammad was the last prophet and His is the only "true" religion. The truth is it's about the secular monarchs trying to bring Islam into the 21st century.
The bit about Democracy to the World, hey, I could care less if other countries are democratic - it's their country, they can have a king or an Ayatollah if that's what the people want. Also, I agree (as I have on many a occasion) that the war in iraq is bull shit and was ONLY about oil. IMO anyway.
M
PS: It seems that the Baha'i were left out? I wounder if only pre-Islamic religions qualified? Do you know?
OK, I re wrote my paragraph. As for "unprecedented"? PLEASE ... Hindu and Greek polytheists and Buddhists all met and discussed theology millennia ago. Actually, within the Roman Empire it was very common for people of varying faiths to mix it up - that's true.
I was reading the articles and one Article says Muslims, Christians and Jews (actually it should have said and a Jew) and the other says The Madrid meeting brought together Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and representatives of other religions
It says: an unprecedented event for the Saudi monarchy
It also says: "There have been interfaith conferences before but never by the king of Saudi Arabia," said Rosen, who is head of inter-religious relations at the American Jewish Committee and former chief rabbi of Ireland.
I would also like to note that Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah opened an interfaith conference in Madrid last week, calling on the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish attendees to join him in an unprecedented effort at reconciliation, while rejecting the forces of religious fanaticism
Calling on the three monotheisms - what of the other faiths that were there? Those three fit will within Islamic faith and so where's the "Interfaith"? I mean, Islam already recognizes those other two monotheisms. Where were the Hindu? How about the Buddhist? What of the Baha'i? Note - this is odd it was held in Spain? Why Spain? One would think if one were to hold a conference one would do it in one's country?
Why wasn't it?
Lastly, there have been MANY MANY MANY interfaith conferences. Here's one in Cambodia between Buddhists and monotheists.
So I wouldn't spin this off as KSA the open-minded monarchy.
I would like to know how the Hindu and Buddhists and Baha'i (if present) were treated.
It says: an unprecedented event for the Saudi monarchy
It also says: "There have been interfaith conferences before but never by the king of Saudi Arabia," said Rosen, who is head of inter-religious relations at the American Jewish Committee and former chief rabbi of Ireland.
I would also like to note that Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah opened an interfaith conference in Madrid last week, calling on the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish attendees to join him in an unprecedented effort at reconciliation, while rejecting the forces of religious fanaticism
Calling on the three monotheisms - what of the other faiths that were there? Those three fit will within Islamic faith and so where's the "Interfaith"? I mean, Islam already recognizes those other two monotheisms. Where were the Hindu? How about the Buddhist? What of the Baha'i? Note - this is odd it was held in Spain? Why Spain? One would think if one were to hold a conference one would do it in one's country?
Why wasn't it?
Lastly, there have been MANY MANY MANY interfaith conferences. Here's one in Cambodia between Buddhists and monotheists.
So I wouldn't spin this off as KSA the open-minded monarchy.
I would like to know how the Hindu and Buddhists and Baha'i (if present) were treated.
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Here's something interesting:
July 22, 2008 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - Last week's Muslim World League conference held in Spain, appears to have been a public relations disaster for the Saudi government, which organized the event.
Rather than coming together in an attempt to reconcile the disparate factions of the Islamic world, the affair - chaired by Saudi prince Al-Turki - ended with a UAE official urging Muslim leaders to "avoid the company of Zionists."
In this parlance of course, Zionist translates into "Jews," despite the participant's best attempt at semantic gymastics.
As these writers cautioned in AJC Rabbi Ill Advised To Attend Interfaith Conference With Terror Linked Muslim World League the conference participants, which included prominent American Jews, became nothing more than Saudi stooges.
During the conference, one of Saudi Arabia's most senior religious figures, an imam of the grand mosque in Mecca, Saleh bin Humaid, defended his country's ban on churches and synagogues stating, "from a religious point of view, they can't build a synagogue or a church because it's a sacred place for Muslims."
July 22, 2008 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - Last week's Muslim World League conference held in Spain, appears to have been a public relations disaster for the Saudi government, which organized the event.
Rather than coming together in an attempt to reconcile the disparate factions of the Islamic world, the affair - chaired by Saudi prince Al-Turki - ended with a UAE official urging Muslim leaders to "avoid the company of Zionists."
In this parlance of course, Zionist translates into "Jews," despite the participant's best attempt at semantic gymastics.
As these writers cautioned in AJC Rabbi Ill Advised To Attend Interfaith Conference With Terror Linked Muslim World League the conference participants, which included prominent American Jews, became nothing more than Saudi stooges.
During the conference, one of Saudi Arabia's most senior religious figures, an imam of the grand mosque in Mecca, Saleh bin Humaid, defended his country's ban on churches and synagogues stating, "from a religious point of view, they can't build a synagogue or a church because it's a sacred place for Muslims."
Milwaukee Association for Interfaith Relations
That's one thing about America, because we smartly separated church from state and also don't have a monarchy, it's very easily possible to have these sorts of organization.
That's one thing about America, because we smartly separated church from state and also don't have a monarchy, it's very easily possible to have these sorts of organization.
The InterFaith Conference of Metropolitan Washington
I was wondering: What are some of the major Interfaith Communities in Iran, KSA, UAE, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Egypt .. .. ... ... anyone know?
Surely India has many of these Interfaith Communities???
I was wondering: What are some of the major Interfaith Communities in Iran, KSA, UAE, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Egypt .. .. ... ... anyone know?
Surely India has many of these Interfaith Communities???
Can you be this naive?
The Islamic world and the Western world are diametrically opposed, the latter built on materialism, the former on a belief in the supremacy of the immaterial. Right there is your reason why Muslims are victims in this world, the immaterial (which doesn't 'exist') is obviously powerless against the material.
'Islamophobia' is a term coined by British materialists, its purpose is to find ways to lessen tensions between immigrants and indigenous people in the U.K. and integrate Muslim communities into the West for economic reasons, it is not to proselytize or legitimize their religion which, as I said, is fundamentally at odds with Western civilization.
It was the Runnymede Trust which originally coined the term in 1996, a private charity sponsored by corporate money.
It's all about the money.
Yeah, they'll realize it's wrong when the jobs done, which is exactly what happened with the Native Americans.
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