You just said you would NOT act as God has acted in history.No, my basis for morality really is God acting in history.
I think you are conflicted.
You just said you would NOT act as God has acted in history.No, my basis for morality really is God acting in history.
Treat others as you wish to be treated. Accommodate others if you are in a position to do so, and help others if you can. Beyond that, decide what you want to do, and do it.What is your basis for morality?
You just said you would NOT act as God has acted in history.
I think you are conflicted.
Treat others as you wish to be treated. Accommodate others if you are in a position to do so, and help others if you can. Beyond that, decide what you want to do, and do it.
Pretty simple really.
So you say you get your morality from how God acts, and your decisions are guided by his. But you don't know why God acts as he does and can't see how he makes decisions.Of course I would NOT act as God has acted in history. I am only a man. I am not Him. I do not have a perfect perspective of the world like He does, able to balance everything at once.
So now you see that sometimes it's moral to murder babies, because God did it. We can't know why he did, but he had his reasons, so there must be reasons that make it OK.I used to judge God myself. But, no more!
A great many sources. My parents. My school. The Sermon on the Mount. The Qur'an. A book on Wicca. Experience from living my life.Where did you get that from?
Morality is not true or false. It's not math.How do you know it is true?
Well, let's start with the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Now, only sentient creatures can think such a thought, and a fetus is not capable of such a coherent thought, the sentiment applies to the ones who are sentient: the mother.
Can you quote the post (and give the post number) where the claim that that the Golden Rule is "true" was made?But why do you regard the Golden Rule as being true?
my basis for morality is God acting in History
So what you're saying is that your moral basis is that of "god" but you wouldn't ACT the way "he" (allegedly) did because you're only a man.Of course I would NOT act as God has acted in history. I am only a man.
So you say you get your morality from how God acts, and your decisions are guided by his. But you don't know why God acts as he does and can't see how he makes decisions.
Again, you seem a little conflicted there.
It isn't "true". It just works. It's part of the social contract.But why do you regard the Golden Rule as being true?
Can you quote the post (and give the post number) where the claim that that the Golden Rule is "true" was made?
Er...
So what you're saying is that your moral basis is that of "god" but you wouldn't ACT the way "he" (allegedly) did because you're only a man.
Presumably that's because, being only a man, you don't actually have the power to cause a world-wide flood, devastate entire cities, get bears to maul small children...
But your "moral basis" is still that of "god" right?
Probably not, once you get right down to it.Like you, I attempt to love my neighbor as myself. And I love what you wrote!!!
Those are my marching orders for life. That is what I have been commanded by God to do! To love others!
Are they really that different from yours?
I think the conflict I see is that you follow God with all your heart, but call something he did evil and heinous and you'd never be OK with it.You are welcome to call that “conflicted” if you wish.
So you kill gays when you get the chance? Or do you disobey that command?God in history, means that He is real.
If He is real, I think I better obey Him.
I'm always amazed at people who are incapable of abstract logical thought, advancing the idea of an abstract intelligence that intentionally rules the universe................It isn't "true". It just works. It's part of the social contract.
Probably not, once you get right down to it.
I think the conflict I see is that you follow God with all your heart, but call something he did evil and heinous and you'd never be OK with it.
So you kill gays when you get the chance? Or do you disobey that command?
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. "God" hasn't been shown to be anywhere; "in history" or otherwise, so your assumption that he's "real" remains just that - an assumption.God in history, means that He is real.
I agree. IF he's real. Which has yet to be established.If He is real, I think I better obey Him.
That's what you might well believe, but it's not a fact.He commands me to love others.
Given that you haven't actually addressed anything to do with what I wrote I will concur with your self-assessment.But, I am a crazy person!
..."I am very far from being perfect."
What do you think?
I thank that you dont try as hard as you coud to be the kind of person God wants you to be.!!!
What is holdin you back.???
Couldn't have said it better myself.It isn't "true". It just works. It's part of the social contract.
No it doesn't.God in history, means that He is real.
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. "God" hasn't been shown to be anywhere; "in history" or otherwise, so your assumption that he's "real" remains just that - an assumption.
No it doesn't.
Is the thesis of this thread premised on God existing?
Because that should be stated up front.
Without it, God is merely one argument, and it's an argument not granted by many.