I'm appalled by this, not because I'm a former Catholic but because I'm a human being. The maintaining of 17th Century hatred and revulsion against Catholics in this day and age is not just wrong and misguided, it is as deeply abhorrent as anti-Semitism or any kind of race hatred. But it does give us further guidance into the kind of Fundamentalist church you appear to have thrown your lot in with. Woody, Christianity should be a religion of love, not hatred, of tolerance, not bigotry.Woody said:Snake er, I mean medicine woman.
I figured you'd like the post of your god. Medusa is an interesting study, though mythological. You are like her character. Read up on it.
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The pope is not my father.
The popes presided over the grand inquisition, where many believers and nonbelievers alike were put to death to seize their property. Their methods of torturing a confession out of someone go down in history as one of the most brutal: pouring molten lead down someone's ear canal, roasting their feet over a fire. All this was done with the excuse of "blasphemy."
You joined the harlot church, and I do not blame you for leaving. I believe there will be some catholics in heaven, but you chose the worst of the lot.
Many of us are interested in religion even though we don't espouse it. As to roasting, the words "pot" and "kettle" are whirling round my mind at the moment - don't be offensive in your posts and some people (I won't say all) will treat you with courtesy.Woody said:Just in case Snakeman is reading this post:
I do not take it lightly in calling someone a fool according to scripture. The laws you mentioned were written for the lawless, not for believers. You were the first to start the "greater fool" discussion.
In conclusion, why do atheists even bother to come to a religion forum, when it's all make believe to them? And if anyone even dares to disagree then gang up and roast them.
Was that me, by any chance?Woody said:By the way I don't know who that other poor person was that tried to express an opinion, but I am all too familiar with the response.
Nobody's calling you insane because you believe in Hell and God and the Devil. They are calling you insane because over and above your religious beliefs you demonstrate serious irrationality. But I'm not condoning the kind of posts you've attracted which makes you respond this way. From my point of view it sounds like your sister has been brainwashed into accepting your dangerously irrational world view, which makes me sad - but I accept that I could be wrong about that.Woody said:Pavlos, In your dimension I can understand why you think I am insane. My sister used to think the same about me when she was an agnostic. After many years of prayer for her by me, she became a christian, and I thank God. Many people believe there is a hell, does that make them all insane?
I think we'd all prefer a Woody who wasn't hypocritically living a "real" life of love and fulfillment and lawabiding while at the same time coming online and demonstrating hatred and bitterness. How do you square your great life with your loving wife and daughter with your statement that you couldn't wait for this stinking life to be over?Woody said:And tell me Pavlos, what would you do if you really believed there is a hell like I believe? Would you sit quitely and say nothing? Yes, I am eccentric, but I am also highly analytical, which requires rational thinking. You have not lived my life. So before you size up your profile, just remember that I have a wife to whom I have always been faithful, an 8 year old daughter, we go to church, I obey the law, I don't smoke, drink or do drugs, I don't read porn, I live a decent, moral life, and I have been a christian for 23 years -- I am no christian come lately. Christ has made a huge difference in my life, before I met Him -- I was the opposite of what I just described. Which Woody do you prefer?
Whoever created that site doesn't know what he's talking about. And you've made a logical error - "All satanists are atheists" does not mean that "all atheists are satanists". His satanic cult may be "atheistic" in some narrow technical sense in that they don't literally believe in the Satan their cult is named after, but I think that all the atheists here would reject any kind of cultic activity as being either irrational or as an excuse to behave in immoral ways that we don't find particularly attractive.Woody said:Skinwalker -- Ever heard of an atheistic satanist? Sounds like atheists have a lot in common with them. Why don't you tell an athiestic satanist he's full of crap. They are a cult too, take a look for yourself.
http://www.x-ville.8k.com/satanism.html
You still don't get the concept of not believing - if I don't believe in hell, then your statement that continuing not to believe in it will lead me straight there is meaningless. Many Christians are so because they believe in the life eternal with Christ. Conversely they find it hard to square a supposedly all-loving and all-merciful Creator with eternal punishment in Hell for all those people whose only crime is not believing in Jesus (ie the majority of the world's population throughout all history). So, taking their cue from "the wages of sin is death", isn't it easier to say "You will die, you will cease to exist" - which is what we believe anyway, rather than threaten us with a concept that many convinced Christians find profoundly blasphemous against God Himself.Woody said:Keep telling yourself there is no such place as Hell (Sheol) when you slip into eternity. Everyone is just dead alright. Satan is waiting for all infidels there and he is one hungry bastard. You don't have to go there. Please don't.
Please try to accept other people's nonbelief and express your own faith in less aggressive and irrational terms and perhaps we'll all get along better. We're here to discuss religious belief - we're not here to be preached at.
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