Is God unhappy with muslims.......?
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MaskHellRaiser said:
a racist statement is one that maligns a specific ethnic group for example, indians, pakistanis, chinese, arabs, jews etc. Muslims are not an ethnic group they are a religious group or denomination therefore a statement against muslims while it may be bigoted is not racist.
MaskHellRaiser
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LOL, ya guthrie made an exellent point, isn't go suppose to be mercifull, forgiving, turn-the-other check? Well, by the post u made, u christian, don't god love his children and bla bla bla.....well then he can't possibly punish those who dont deserve to b punished.
MaskHellRaiser
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to path-
actually racism has evolved these so a days, thanks to ignorants....well a person can b racist against white ppl or black, can't they? What about KKK? A person can b racist to blondes, brunnettes and etc? The can also b racist to ethinc group? BUT also to religious catagory, such as christians, muslims, atheist....like that friend of ur was...Ppl got so ignorant these days that can be racist to almost anything, my teacher told a story about a guy that was racist (practice a malign hate) towards tall ppl, just cause he was short....now does any tall ppl have anything to do with him being short? - dont reply that thanks to tall ppl he is categorized as short, it's not their fault.
actually racism has evolved these so a days, thanks to ignorants....well a person can b racist against white ppl or black, can't they? What about KKK? A person can b racist to blondes, brunnettes and etc? The can also b racist to ethinc group? BUT also to religious catagory, such as christians, muslims, atheist....like that friend of ur was...Ppl got so ignorant these days that can be racist to almost anything, my teacher told a story about a guy that was racist (practice a malign hate) towards tall ppl, just cause he was short....now does any tall ppl have anything to do with him being short? - dont reply that thanks to tall ppl he is categorized as short, it's not their fault.
MaskHellRaiser said:
Yep
The KKK is not a race but it would be safe to assume that they are all caucasian.
No, hair color is not an ethnic group they could be called biased or bigoted against blondes brunetes etc..
No, refer to my definition above.
I am afraid that your teacher is ignorant of the definition of the word racist, the word he should have used was biased tall people aren't a race
Ahah! I knew I would find something to punch a hole in marv's theory.
Assuming a magical deity in the sky did cause these earthquakes, it certainly wasn't aimed directly at muslims. Sri Lanka is reporting about 25,000 deaths, India is reporting in the 10,000's. Vietnam is also reporting heavy losses. Both India and Sri Lanka are predomenantly hindu or buddhist. Vietnam is some form of buddhism...
So why is god mad at them?
Assuming a magical deity in the sky did cause these earthquakes, it certainly wasn't aimed directly at muslims. Sri Lanka is reporting about 25,000 deaths, India is reporting in the 10,000's. Vietnam is also reporting heavy losses. Both India and Sri Lanka are predomenantly hindu or buddhist. Vietnam is some form of buddhism...
So why is god mad at them?
MaskHellRaiser
Registered Member
Path, u talk so much about the word biased and yet do u no that the two word are almost the same. Biased has a synonym which is predjudice (Irrational suspicion or HATRED of a particular group, race, or RELIGION)<<<from a dictionary>>>....there is no much diff to racism.
ANYWAY, changing the subject, i made a reference the also same as top mosker, dont bother top mosker we already concluded that he was wrong.
ANYWAY, changing the subject, i made a reference the also same as top mosker, dont bother top mosker we already concluded that he was wrong.
from a Spiritual / religious perspective death is not a punishent.
only the mater-minded fear death, as they, cannot yet see beyond it.
with consideration to the established fact not all those people were muslims. i pose a counter theory to Marv perhaps
God has blessed those people who have been taken from this life by this natural disaster.
only the mater-minded fear death, as they, cannot yet see beyond it.
with consideration to the established fact not all those people were muslims. i pose a counter theory to Marv perhaps
God has blessed those people who have been taken from this life by this natural disaster.
Marv
Help me out here ... Are we supposed to take you seriously?
If the answer is yes, then I officially invite your input, as it seems right on topic with another discussion: "God must be lonely on Sunday ...?"
Help me out here ... Are we supposed to take you seriously?
If the answer is yes, then I officially invite your input, as it seems right on topic with another discussion: "God must be lonely on Sunday ...?"
Bells
Staff member
Hellraiser
Learn the difference between being a bigot and a racist. Marv was being a bigot in his claim.
Tiassa
I think that Marv is simply a flamer. He wanted to get a violent response from the Muslims in this thread and he didn't get one from them, so he's left it. This thread has merely shown him in his true colours.. that of a bigot and an ignorant peon. He really should go to any one of the countries affected by this disaster and make that claim. I'd enjoy watching the news just to see the survivors of this disaster tearing his skin off. Hell, he wouldn't have to go there to make any of the statements he's made in this thread. He merely has to stand in the middle of a public place and make it and the reaction would still probably be the same from the public. Maybe then he could claim that God must be angry at him.
Learn the difference between being a bigot and a racist. Marv was being a bigot in his claim.
Tiassa
I think that Marv is simply a flamer. He wanted to get a violent response from the Muslims in this thread and he didn't get one from them, so he's left it. This thread has merely shown him in his true colours.. that of a bigot and an ignorant peon. He really should go to any one of the countries affected by this disaster and make that claim. I'd enjoy watching the news just to see the survivors of this disaster tearing his skin off. Hell, he wouldn't have to go there to make any of the statements he's made in this thread. He merely has to stand in the middle of a public place and make it and the reaction would still probably be the same from the public. Maybe then he could claim that God must be angry at him.
MaskHellRaiser
Registered Member
well after searching their definition, they r synonym, duh.
In the way i look they means almost the same thing. But hey, my bad, i'll try using bigot instead then.
In the way i look they means almost the same thing. But hey, my bad, i'll try using bigot instead then.
Take me seriously? Only to a degree. I confess that I did intend to be a little provocative; but flame? Never. I wanted people to think, but if I offended anyone, I apologize.tiassa said:
Too often we put off unto the gods those things we should be doing for ourselves is my dictum. When bad things happen, the religious zealot cries, "We have sinned. We are being punished. We must change our ways." The objectivist says, "It's normal plate tectonics in action but with unfortunate results. It's happened before and it will happen again. Is there anything we can do about it?"
If a muslim feels offended on this forum, they should go to the Sunni forum and try to find any accomodation for, let alone an apology to, a non-muslim.
Hate is everywhere, like it or not.
Bells
Staff member
You picked a bad subject to be provocative about Marv. 80,000+ people have died and you pick that to be provocative about? What's to think about this? A natural disaster has occured that has resulted in so many deaths that I can't even begin to fathom what the victims have gone through and will continue to go through. I had several friends in Thailand Marv. Friends who were there on holidays. So far only 2 have contacted us to let us know they were ok and saw the disaster happen from their balconies, one with a lucky escape as she was jogging on the beach only 5 minutes before the first wave struck and had gone upstairs to her room to get changed before heading down to breakfast and a swim. 2 are still unaccounted for and our hopes and dreams are that they did go to the mainland for the hike into the hills they had planned and haven't been able to contact us to let us know they are ok. I didn't just find you offensive, I found you tasteless and frankly bordering on the obscene.marv said:
So far in this forum, you are the only one that I've seen so far who's acted like the zealot and asked the question of whether God was unhappy with Muslims. You hold yourself on a higher moral ground, that you are an atheist and post a link to a Muslim forum who blame this disaster on God, as though to say that you are better than they... yet it was you who asked this question here.. to be, as you stated above, provocative. As I said before Marv, this thread says a lot about you.
Yes religious zealots will blame this on God, just like you appear to be doing. But normal sensible people see this for what it is. A natural disaster of immense proportions that has resulted in too many deaths to comprehend.
Any human being with a minute amount of decency would feel offended with this thread Marv. And why should Muslims apologise? Have all Muslims done something wrong?
Maybe it's you who should post a link to this thread in the Sunni forum and apologise to them.
I put superstition behind me a long time ago, probably before you were born. I've also learned not to be thin skinned. Now, if you want to see real hate, go to that Sunni forum.
Individually, I don't hate muslims. But I have a very, very, very serious problem with what the likes of a UBL does. And where are the decent, law-abiding muslims to declare him an apostate, an infidel to the Islam religion? There is a great silence with but soft, scattered voices saying, "Oh well, we don't approve of him." Is that all there is?
Read the on-line versions of the Arab News or Yemen Times and see the hate and misrepresentations they put to the world. Who am I to be sorry for the youth of Saudi who lack practical trades and skills to contribute something to their nation? I wasn't the one to see that they only learned religion.
It wasn't Jews or Christians or Buddhists or Hindus who hijacked those airliners. I should pretend that the miseries of the Middle East is my fault, or my nations fault, and that is the root cause? Your attitude, Bells, does not in any way help to promote any good will or solve any problem at any level. Have muslims done anything wrong, indeed! Denial doesn't cut chips as a wood cutter might say. There are people who commit crimes, and there are people who do nothing to prevent them. It's difficult to tell the difference.
No, not all muslims have done wrong, but a small and very active number do. They murder innocent women and children, including muslim, in the name of Allah! And the ummah stands quietly by. Arab leaders (should I even use the term) fill their palaces with gold trinkets while their people, for whom they are responsible, live in poverty or idleness or run off to seek adventure in war with muslim fundamentalists who promise them virgins in some paradise.
Those Islamic fundamentalists will shed every drop of those young muslim men, and those young muslim men will continue to march into a killing machine on the promise of a paradise with virgins that isn't. It's shear maddness and unless the muslim world stands up and shouts, "Enough! Stop!", a generation will be lost. Is that what Islam wants?
Individually, I don't hate muslims. But I have a very, very, very serious problem with what the likes of a UBL does. And where are the decent, law-abiding muslims to declare him an apostate, an infidel to the Islam religion? There is a great silence with but soft, scattered voices saying, "Oh well, we don't approve of him." Is that all there is?
Read the on-line versions of the Arab News or Yemen Times and see the hate and misrepresentations they put to the world. Who am I to be sorry for the youth of Saudi who lack practical trades and skills to contribute something to their nation? I wasn't the one to see that they only learned religion.
It wasn't Jews or Christians or Buddhists or Hindus who hijacked those airliners. I should pretend that the miseries of the Middle East is my fault, or my nations fault, and that is the root cause? Your attitude, Bells, does not in any way help to promote any good will or solve any problem at any level. Have muslims done anything wrong, indeed! Denial doesn't cut chips as a wood cutter might say. There are people who commit crimes, and there are people who do nothing to prevent them. It's difficult to tell the difference.
No, not all muslims have done wrong, but a small and very active number do. They murder innocent women and children, including muslim, in the name of Allah! And the ummah stands quietly by. Arab leaders (should I even use the term) fill their palaces with gold trinkets while their people, for whom they are responsible, live in poverty or idleness or run off to seek adventure in war with muslim fundamentalists who promise them virgins in some paradise.
Those Islamic fundamentalists will shed every drop of those young muslim men, and those young muslim men will continue to march into a killing machine on the promise of a paradise with virgins that isn't. It's shear maddness and unless the muslim world stands up and shouts, "Enough! Stop!", a generation will be lost. Is that what Islam wants?
You know it's bad news of what happened with the tsunami victims climbing and all. But I don't think the US should be the sucker to come and rescue the whole fucking world when something bad happens!!. :bugeye:
First people aroudn the world are hating our fucking guts because of this damn war.
Second, when ever something bad happens here, hardly anyone shows up to aid, if at all. No one gives a shiet about us. Were was the UN when four major hurricanes bombarded Florida?.
Basically it's WE HATE YOU!! come and help us, send us more money, feed us, and if we do little we are stengy? What the fuck?. What about other nations jumping on every corner of the world when something of this magnitude happens. We go, get criticised for the effort, meanwhile they call us Nazis, assholes, etc. Look at Cool Skills posts. The SOB.
Good article on my point of view; SEND NO MONEY TO TSUNAMI NATIONS
Godless.
First people aroudn the world are hating our fucking guts because of this damn war.
Second, when ever something bad happens here, hardly anyone shows up to aid, if at all. No one gives a shiet about us. Were was the UN when four major hurricanes bombarded Florida?.
Basically it's WE HATE YOU!! come and help us, send us more money, feed us, and if we do little we are stengy? What the fuck?. What about other nations jumping on every corner of the world when something of this magnitude happens. We go, get criticised for the effort, meanwhile they call us Nazis, assholes, etc. Look at Cool Skills posts. The SOB.
Good article on my point of view; SEND NO MONEY TO TSUNAMI NATIONS
Godless.
MaskHellRaiser
Registered Member
Umm, damn this is harsh godless.
Let me explain, American is like a person, and people these days only do things to benefit themself. Why do u think American helped Korea, Vietnam, Afaghstan, beucase they were a threat of communist not to their country but to the US itself. What would the American ppl c that their president is doing nothing to stop communism that may target this democratic nation. Well, first of all, if the president don't do shit, then ppl would call him communist. The same goes to Iraq, do u think that all this debt and all this money that is being wasted (literaly), on this "war" in Iraq comes for free. There is alot money going to Bush's pocket and may b soon to the country. Now if the president feels he'll get something in return for helping those needy ppl, he would have done so or may b will do so soon, but i dont think that there is anything to return.
And that's my friend is what life is.... god damn money.
Ps: may b u should change ur name to heartless not godless, since that was harsh dawg.
Let me explain, American is like a person, and people these days only do things to benefit themself. Why do u think American helped Korea, Vietnam, Afaghstan, beucase they were a threat of communist not to their country but to the US itself. What would the American ppl c that their president is doing nothing to stop communism that may target this democratic nation. Well, first of all, if the president don't do shit, then ppl would call him communist. The same goes to Iraq, do u think that all this debt and all this money that is being wasted (literaly), on this "war" in Iraq comes for free. There is alot money going to Bush's pocket and may b soon to the country. Now if the president feels he'll get something in return for helping those needy ppl, he would have done so or may b will do so soon, but i dont think that there is anything to return.
And that's my friend is what life is.... god damn money.
Ps: may b u should change ur name to heartless not godless, since that was harsh dawg.